Love and Being

Perhaps the most intriguing statement in the New Testament is St. John’s simple, “God is love.” As mysterious and awesome as the revelation of the Divine Name (“I am that I am”) to Moses might be, St. John’s statement gives a content that echoes and infolds the death and resurrection of Christ itself. Indeed, any other statement about God runs the risk of obscuring this essential revelation. More than that, to say, “God is love,” reveals the full character of being and existence.

In our everyday thought and speech, we are accustomed to thinking about love as an action, a moral choice that describes how we treat others. We could say, “I am a human being who chooses to love.” In truth, it would be more accurate to say, “I am love who chooses to human-being.” Every thought and action in our lives that is contrary to love is a diminishment of our being. When Christ says to us, “I have come that they might have life, and that more abundantly,” we may understand Him to mean that He has come to make love possible and to nurture us in the fullness of love-as-being.

We are created with a drive towards true existence – we yearn for it. Frequently, we go no further with this drive than to tend to our bodies – to eat when we are hungry or to drink when we thirst. That same drive towards existence (on the bodily level) can become distorted through gluttony and such. By the same token, we are created to love. The primal bond between mother and child, is physical, emotional, and psychological. It eclipses these biological states, however, and becomes truly ontological.

The Virgin Mary, when presenting her Divine child in the Temple, is told by the Prophet Simeon, “this Child is destined for the fall and rising of many in Israel, and for a sign which will be spoken against (yes, a sword will pierce through your own soul also), that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.”” (Lk. 2:34-35) This describes something far beyond the bond of emotion between mother and child. The sword will pierce her soul. There is an ontological bond – such is the mystery of our true existence and its reality as love.

A difficulty with the world in its juridical imagination is that love is seen as but an emotion, sometimes an action – but not as the stuff of reality. We have everything backwards. It is Love (God) Who created all that is and sustains it. Communion with the true God is to live in Love. When we are told to “love your neighbor as yourself,” we too often hear little more than a commandment to be nice to those around us. St. Silouan heard it rightly and declared, “My brother is my life.”

St. Isaac of Syria wrote:

What compassionate kindness and abundant goodness belong to the Creator! With what purpose and with what love did he create this world and bring it into existence! What a mystery does the coming into being of the creation look towards! To what a state is our common nature invited! What love served to initiate the creation of the world! … In love did he bring the world into existence; in love is he going to bring it to that wondrous transformed state, and in love will the world be swallowed up in the great mystery of him who has performed all these things; in love will the whole course of the governance of creation be finally comprised.

Of course, the full nature of love is revealed in Christ’s voluntary self-offering on the Cross: “Greater love has no man than this, than to lay down his life for his friends.” (Jn. 15:13) The Cross is more than a saving event. It is an event that reveals.

Contemporary culture imagines human beings as individuals. As such, we seek to be self-contained, self-defining, and self-referential. It is ironic in the extreme that this patently untrue version of human existence is an invention of a culture rather than the product of an individual. It is a culture-wide delusion, sustained only through its unrelenting sales pitch telling us to “be all that you can be” (except that which you really are).

We are not the products of invention or genius, re-imagining or technology. We are birthed by love and bound by love and only fulfilled and realized through love. We are both lover and beloved, or else we are hastening towards non-existence.

Biology gives us a portion of our existence. It does not give us the fullness of our existence. Christ on the Cross, at the very edge of death, is, nevertheless showing the fullness of human existence. Creation itself (the darkened Sun, the earthquake) reveals His humanity as cosmic in its scope.

We are created in the image of God, not as thing, but as person. To be a person is far more than being a mere individual. It is an existence that embraces others as it constitutes itself in the free gift of love. The clinical observation of children in poorly-run orphanages in the former Soviet sphere documented classic examples of “failure to thrive.” Without love, without touch, without human-to-human communion, children withered away. Well-being, much less greatness of being, requires love.

Love is ontological, a matter of true being. Its absence in our lives, in whatever measure, diminishes our existence, our lives becoming thin and stretched. Bilbo Baggins, Tolkien’s hobbit character who carries the Ring of the Dark Lord for decades, describes himself in this classic manner: “I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread.” In an age of information, we fail to see that we are wielding the ring of a dark lord, marveling at our power while we ourselves become less and less.

Many years ago, I became convinced that we become ever more like that which we love.

“…love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.” (1 John 4:7–8)

Bearing this in mind, the words of Isaiah seem less strange:

“Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good, And let your soul delight itself in fatness.” (Isaiah 55:2)

Love is the very heart of our existence. It is the stuff of which our true life consists. Love God. Love your neighbor. Love even your enemy. Delight yourself in the fatness of being.

About Fr. Stephen Freeman

Fr. Stephen is a retired Archpriest of the Orthodox Church in America. He is also author of Everywhere Present: Christianity in a One-Storey Universe, and Face to Face: Knowing God Beyond Our Shame, as well as the Glory to God podcast series on Ancient Faith Radio.



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  1. Dan Avatar

    This harmonizes so deeply with what I feel God was speaking to me this very morning about where we place our attention and our hearts. To be so blessed with the grace of being a child of the kingdom is so rich with LOVE — I’m going to go back and read this several times. It’s the word my heart needs. Thank you for sharing your perspective, wisdom, and connecting with God’s LOVE.

  2. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Is love not also manifested in the Resurrection? We seem to focus a lot on the cross in this space; the Crucified Christ is front and centre. Reminds me of my evangelical days …

  3. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    The focus on the Crucified Christ is intentional on my part (following St. Paul). However, it differs sharply from your evangelical days. There the Cross focuses on “sin” – and the PSA. The content of the Cross is love – and, importantly, suffering love. The resurrection is the fulfillment and promise of love. Christ said, “For this cause I came into the world.” What you heard in your past tended to be a diminishment of the Cross, not its exaltation.

  4. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Fr. Stephen. You wrote:

    “Christ on the Cross, at the very edge of death, is, nevertheless showing the fullness of human existence. Creation itself (the darkened Sun, the earthquake) reveals His humanity as cosmic in its scope.”

    Could you unpack this a little more? We have discussed this before, but I´m still struggling with understanding the cross and the resurrection and the relationship between them. As we talked about some time ago, the evangelicals tend to break apart all the aspects of Jesus´life (Incarnation, birth, life and ministry, etc.) and examine them individually. You seem to support looking at everything together in once full piece, but at the same time you seem to emphasize the cross over the other aspects.

  5. john brady Avatar
    john brady

    I love the St Isaac quote. Source? (I try to read the Ascetical Homilies regularly, but right now I’m not finding it right now.)

  6. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    John, Here is the citation:
    Isaac of Nineveh [Isaac the Syrian], ‘The Second Part’, Chapters IV-XLI, Sebastian Brock, trans. Corpus Scriptorum Christianorum Orientalium 555, Scriptores syri 225. Louvain 1995. II/38,1-2

    I was reading in Hilarion Alfeyev’s book, The Spiritual World Of Isaac The Syrian (Cistercian Studies Series Book 175) An excellent small treatise.

  7. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    Originally, the Church’s feast of Pascha was a single feast that included both the Crucifixion and the Resurrection. It was, I am told, the influence of the Church in Jerusalem that gave rise to the whole, long celebration of Holy Week (which I truly love). But, in Orthodoxy, even on the night of Holy Thursday, during the service of Matins of Holy Friday, there are notes (and a slight shift in music) that signals the presence of the resurrection. That is part of the Orthodox consciousness of the Cross – the Cross (all of it) – is also Christ’s victory, His trampling down death by death. Even on Pascha itself, the great hymn repeated over and over, is “Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death…” so that the Cross/the Tomb/the Descent into Hades/the Rising from the Dead are all celebrated as a single event – none of them without the others.

    But, I suspect that we would gladly separate the Resurrection out and leave the suffering behind. Forgive me, but it’s so American! Indeed, in much of Protestant theology and teaching, the Cross and the suffering is something that Jesus does – so that we don’t have to. And that is not the gospel. That’s anti-gospel. It’s a contradiction of Christ’s own teaching.

    So, if there’s an emphasis on the Cross in my writings (and there is), I pray that it’s an Orthodox emphasis. But, since we suffer in this life at present, it’s seems apropos to take us to that moment – and see what is going on.

    I hope that’s helpful.

  8. David E. Rockett Avatar

    Love this…thanks Father!

  9. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Fr. Stephen.

  10. Byron Avatar
    Byron

    the Cross and the suffering is something that Jesus does – so that we don’t have to. And that is not the gospel.

    Recently, I came across a writing from a friend who has since passed. His therapist said exactly the same thing to him: “Jesus went to the cross so we don’t have to”. It struck me in the face now, where I’m sure it didn’t when I read it the first time.

  11. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Byron,
    That’s very much part of the PSA teaching. But Christ is utterly clear that we must “take up our Cross and follow Him…” The only kind of Christian is a crucified Christian. Even babies are “baptized into His death.”

  12. Esmée Noelle Covey Avatar
    Esmée Noelle Covey

    “Contemporary culture imagines human beings as individuals. As such, we seek to be self-contained, self-defining, and self-referential. It is ironic in the extreme that this patently untrue version of human existence is an invention of a culture rather than the product of an individual.”

    This is a very interesting observation. But, it seems to have come about as a result of the development of the very introspective discipline of psychology, which was originally begun by just a few people, and then embraced and promoted by the larger culture, probably at the same time God was demoted and lost His central place in the lives of most modern people?

  13. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Esmée,
    Already in the 17th-18th centuries, various philosophers were already very keen on human beings as pure individuals, while psychology doesn’t really get its start until the latter half of the 19th century. Individualism has been a hallmark of American culture since near its inception.

  14. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thank you Fr. Stephen and Byron.

    I am clearly not anymore a prosperity gospel Christian, but I am also not into self-flagellation. The Church talks a lot about suffering and it´s important place in the salvific lives of the faithful, but then the Church does massive amounts to alleviate suffering in the lives of all people.

    I pray for the suffering of others to be alleviated. I pray for healing. I know that I cannot altogether snuff out the flames of suffering, and suffering can be an excellent teacher when it does come, but I don´t think it is incorrect to believe that God also wants to heal us. Theosis is after all a process of healing the human soul … is it not?

    My wife is currently suffering from a very debilitating migraine. People are praying for her condition and situation. I don´t think they are praying that she suffer more in order that her union with God would be more complete. Should they?

  15. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    On a much happier note:

    I think many of you here will be pleased to know that my niece delivered a baby boy! His name is Theodoros and he will be raised Greek Orthodox. I so long to be at the baptism, but it may not be possible.

    Matthew

  16. Esmée Noelle Covey Avatar
    Esmée Noelle Covey

    Ah, thanks! This post is such a beautiful exposition of what “God is Love” means in the fullness of its unfolding in our lives.

  17. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    Matthew,
    It may seem odd to hear, but just before I was baptized in the Orthodox Church I got cold feet (not too different from someone who understands the seriousness of marriage just before the wedding). My priest suggested I had two choices to step up to the cross of Christ or step down from the cross. Framed in this way gave me the courage I needed to enter the waters of my baptism into the death and resurrection with Christ. The process of death involved was very real to me and I was very afraid of such fire but overcame this fear and hung on for the love of Christ.

  18. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Dee. What fire were you afraid of?

  19. Byron Avatar
    Byron

    I think many of you here will be pleased to know that my niece delivered a baby boy! His name is Theodoros and he will be raised Greek Orthodox. I so long to be at the baptism, but it may not be possible.

    Congratulations to all, Matthew! I hope you find a way to attend his baptism!

    My wife is currently suffering from a very debilitating migraine. People are praying for her condition and situation. I don´t think they are praying that she suffer more in order that her union with God would be more complete. Should they?

    Not to “suffer more”, Matthew–certainly not! We should pray for her healing. But also that the suffering she weathers is transformed by God’s grace into an instrument that is helpful for her salvation. We don’t seek out suffering but we bear it (rightly, one hopes) as it is brought to us. Father, I’m sure, will be able to say much more, far better than I.

  20. Carson Avatar
    Carson

    A minor thing, but there’s a typo: “Tolkein” instead of “Tolkien”.

  21. Kenneth Avatar
    Kenneth

    Jesus’s prayer in the Garden is the model. “Let this cup pass from me, nevertheless not my will but thine be done.” I.e., we pray for goodness and health and not for suffering, yet we also pray that we can bear whatever suffering may come our way. I’ve been pondering this prayer lately. There are saints who apparently have asked for cancer so that God could be glorified in their suffering, yet Jesus prayed that the cup of the cross might pass from him, but ultimately for God’s will. Maybe Fr. Stephen can elaborate further.

  22. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    Of course no one should ask for more suffering. There’s plenty enough already.

  23. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    How did my wife (my best spell-checker) miss that?

  24. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    Matthew,
    You ask about the ‘fire’ I feared, let me begin an answer by repeating what Father mentioned earlier:

    But, I suspect that we would gladly separate the Resurrection out and leave the suffering behind. Forgive me, but it’s so American! Indeed, in much of Protestant theology and teaching, the Cross and the suffering is something that Jesus does – so that we don’t have to. And that is not the gospel. That’s anti-gospel. It’s a contradiction of Christ’s own teaching.

    If it were up to me at the time, yes, I would have been one who would ask for the Resurrection without the cross. But we are mortal. We’re going to go down to death at one time or another, no matter what. It isn’t up to us when we die, but to some extent, how we die is a different matter. If I am to die I pray that I will die in Christ.

    The fire I feared is the fire of redemption, as it is said in Hebrews 12:29, “our God is a consuming fire”. Depending on one’s thinking, that might be interpreted that God is a jealous God, a retributive God or an angry God.

    There are prayers said before receiving communion in the Orthodox Church. One part of the prayers refers back to the three youths in the cauldron (Daniel 3:1-97) In Orthodox understanding, the one standing beside them in the fire is Christ. And in another part of the communion prayers is St Simeon’s prayer, which I quote in part:

    O Thou Who givest me willingly Thy Flesh for food,
    Thou Who art fire, and burnest the unworthy,
    Scorch me not, O my Maker,
    But rather pass through me for the integration of my members,
    Into all my joints, my affections, and my heart.
    Burn up the thorns of all my sins.
    Purify my soul, sanctify my mind;…

    And here’s a few more:

    Most holy Theotokos, save us.
    I tremble as I receive the Fire, lest I be burned as wax and as grass. O dread mystery! O divine compassion! How is it that I who am but clay partake of the divine Body and Blood and am made incorruptible?

    May Your most precious Body and Blood be to me as fire and light, O my Savior, consuming the substance of sin and burning the thorns of my passions, and enlightening the whole of me to worship Your Divinity.

    And as You did not reject the woman who was a harlot and a sinner like me, when she approached and touched You, so also be compassionate with me, the sinner, as I approach and touch You, and let the live coal of Your most-holy Body and precious Blood be for the sanctification, and enlightenment, and strengthening of my humble soul and body

  25. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    I should also add that I do not see such fire as punishment of an angry, retributive, abusive, jealous God. It is the fire of love.

  26. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Dee, Matthew,
    Yes! Moses sees God as fire in the Burning Bush – it is fire but the bush is not burned! The Church sees in the Bush a type of the Theotokos. She “contains” the Fire of God in her womb – and is not “burned,” i.e. her virginity is preserved.

    And, of course, the Fire of the Divine Presence guides the Israelites in the Wilderness by night. St. John the Baptist says that Christ will Baptize with the Holy Spirit and with Fire. And, of course, the Holy Spirit at Pentecost comes as fire “lighting on the disciples.”

    In some treatments, the fire of hell is understood to be nothing other than the fire of the love of God. Very interesting.

  27. Simon the Expectorator Avatar
    Simon the Expectorator

    I am at present coming face-to-face with what I believe to be a perfect example of Lewis’ book the Great Divorce. In the story people become the embodiment of their sin. I think, given my recent experiences, that another way to think about that is to say that people become what they won’t let go of, or they become what they love. There is a gentleman in the story that at the end becomes a grumble. That’s what he becomes he undergoes a reduction in his existence such that the grumbling that he loved or would not let go of is what he became.

    I am seeing that with my mother. My mother has seen herself as a victim for so long and has clung to that identity so desperately…that is what she has become. It is so painfully obvious that it is more than dementia, more than trauma. It is a person who has clung so desperately to her pain that that is what she has become. It is as the Philokalia says ‘stupid’, ‘foul stench’, and ‘lunacy.’

    I am afraid of what I am going to become. It has made me think hard about what it is I am clinging to for dear life. What is it I am going to become? And if it is defined by that which I love most…then I am probably going to become an 8 year old boy with a sharp wit and a mind for calling old men fat and bald. But, I am seriously concerned because I have seen this before.

    I would love to tell you I love God, but I don’t think I do. But, I want to. I know that in my older years that what we need is grace and forgiveness–forgiveness for no good reasons. Grace is what the human condition needs.

    I need Grace. Because I don’t want to become the skepticism I have become so good at practicing or the cynicism that I have become so proficient at spitting.

  28. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Dee and Fr. Stephen.

    Fr. Stephen … is the fire of hell being understood as nothing other than the fire of God´s love not shared within all of Orthodoxy? I would think if one believes the fire of hell to be God´s love, that does not equate to one believing (necessarily) in universal salvation. I always thought God´s love as fire will be experienced differently by those who love God and by those who do not.

  29. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks also to you Byron.

  30. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    It’s easy to forget that Orthodoxy is not a tightly-run bureaucracy with departments of management and such. So, on any number of topics, it’s possible to encounter a range of opinions – and this has been true in every century. The article/reprint The River of Fire is probably the best source for looking at the understanding that the fire of judgment is nothing other than the love of God (experienced differently depending on the inner state of a soul/heart). There’s certainly plenty of witnesses to that understanding.

    If we reflect on it, we could even go so far as to say that “everyone will be saved, but some people are not going to like it.” It would seem to be an Orthodox consensus that this can change – that after death we undergo change. There are many sources that suggest that the change which occurs in us after death is primarily a work that is effected through the prayers of others (that our own power of willing is diminished).

    The plain fact is that precise teachings on life after death, much less the mechanics of that reality, are far more unsettled and undefined that most people would imagine (including many Orthodox). Western Christians are probably shocked by such a thing, since arguments about salvation are a prominent part of Western Christianity.

    But, that’s the point. The arguments regarding salvation (especially with any precise teaching) are fairly late in Christianity. And, when those arguments were taking place – sort of refining one another and hardening positions – Orthodoxy was not part of the conversation.

    Orthodoxy is, in this regard, far more “primitive” than other forms of Christian teaching. I suspect that our present engagement with Western Christianities is putting pressure on Orthodox writers/thinkers to make more pronouncements or to take hard-and-fast positions that mimic the world of Western Christianity.

    The best commentary on Orthodox teaching are our liturgical texts: we believe what we pray. But liturgical texts are not catechisms. And this is frustrating as well if we are looking for careful certainty on specific things.

    Orthodoxy is a whole world of thought, teaching, etc. – but mostly, it’s worship. It is “right glory” (Ortho doxy)

    I hope that’s helpful.

  31. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Simon,
    Yes. You, me, all of us need grace. And the grace we need comes to us in love. It’s also quite Orthodox to recognize that we don’t love God. When we see how much we don’t love other human beings – we can see a measure of how much we don’t love God. So, we start with what He gives us. I think your children have been a gift from God – a starting place for the healing of the heart (something that’s been going on for a long time). I pray for you daily that grace will abound!

  32. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Very helpful Fr. Stephen. Thanks as always.

  33. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Fr. Stephen … after reflecting only a bit on Simon the Expectorator`s brilliant, honest, interesting, sad (so many adjectives could describe it) comment – I´m wondering if sometimes praying for the purifying fire of God´s love to cleanse us is (possibly) more important than acquiring grace to strengthen us? I´m not trying to play these two themes against one another, but I tend to think that if we become that which we hold onto the most, then it´s that very thing (if not aligned with God´s perfect love) that needs to be burned away — in this life or the next.

    I´m not one these days to think much of the concept of “free will”. I simply don´t think humans have such in any real sense (at least not as I have been taught the concept in the west), and if there is such a thing as “free will” then who with a perfected will wrought by the fire of God´s love would freely reject that love? As such, I believe everyone will eventually become what they were intended by God to become, though I know the process is much more complex than I can even begin to understand and articulate.

  34. Byron Avatar
    Byron

    Matthew,

    Perhaps it is enough to pray for grace to hold to what is right…. I know that is something for which, in one form or another, I often pray. Just my thoughts.

  35. Jenny Avatar
    Jenny

    Dear Father,

    (This comment is somewhat out of order, because it takes me so long to think through everything and to pull my thoughts together between children and housework.)

    From December 21 onward, I watch the light and the green as it grows over time. Where we live, the promise of spring is already visible in February, and the cold winter nights are full of birdsong.

    Everything passes quickly, no matter how closely I watch. Spring reaches the peak of its promise by May. I wish I could stop the year at that point.

    By June this year, the first yellow leaves were on the lawn and the mornings were dim and clouded. I hate this time of the year, to be honest. I hate that every time everything that showed such promise falls short and one must live out its slow death towards winter.

    Though I hate it, I can understand it. Even creation is on the cross with us. It’s still subject to futility. While it can foreshadow a new creation, it cannot yet bring forth the promise.

    For a long time I had been using a Pentecostal/charismatic framework to try and understand Christ’s involvement in my life. For perhaps ten years I was looking through this framework for understanding.

    In that framework, Christ is almost always reigning in Heaven, all powerful, all glorious and beautiful. I saw many images of Him as a lion or a warrior or a bridegroom. I remember seeing almost nothing of Him on the cross.

    I began to be increasingly puzzled, because when I read the Gospels, four times I saw Christ as servant, dying to Himself, His will and even His own words long before He even reached the cross, so that He might say and do only that which the Father showed Him.

    Eventually, the discrepancy became too great for me to try and reconcile.

    There is only one book of Revelation, and those images are symbolic. There are four Gospels, and those images are clear, fixed in His human history. They show the same image of Christ. I began to think this was not by mistake, that the repetition was for emphasis- that we are meant to follow Christ where we can see Him.

    Where we can see Him most clearly is on the crucifixion side of the cross, not post resurrection. How can we follow Him there yet? Like creation, we are still fixed in history, always carrying around in our bodies the death of Jesus, so the life of Jesus might be revealed in us.

    It is not that His resurrection means nothing. On the contrary, it makes all that we do possible. Who could endure the dying if we did not already know that our eternal lives are safely hidden away with Him even now, and that nothing, not even death, can separate us from Him? His resurrection makes death merely an opening of our eyes to finally see the One who has been holding us all along.

    And we do not suffer alone. Even though He suffered and died once for all, in His love and in His pity He carries us, and in all our afflictions, He also is afflicted. How wondrous this, that He bears our suffering with us even now. How great is His love.

    Even now, when we do not see all things subject to Him, we know that our Lord is waiting on His Father to put all things under His feet. So even if we look to Him in His glorified state, we still see Him perfectly patient, trusting His Father with perfect love.

    When I look through the framework of Orthodoxy, I see no discrepancy between the Christ of the Gospels and the liturgy, the icons and the prayers. It is the same image, it is the same Jesus.

    In this life, we are living the crucifixion, so it is right to place that image front and center. We must know how to live as He loves. But we never lose hope, because truly He is risen:

    For I know that my Redeemer lives,
And He shall stand at last on the earth;

    And after my skin is destroyed, this I know,
That in my flesh I shall see God,

    Whom I shall see for myself,
And my eyes shall behold, and not another.
How my heart yearns within me!
    -Job 19:25-27

    For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
    So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
    O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
    -I Corinthians 15:53-55

    To God be the glory forever!

  36. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Jenny,
    Thank you for the sweet meditation!

    We are under a “heat dome” the weather-people tell us. I know it’s quite hot. Having moved back to my hometown this past March/April, I find that my mind frequently wanders back to my childhood. It’s quite hot – in a muggy-don’t-thin-I-can-move-much kind of way. I remember, though, that my childhood lacked air conditioning. It was hot – and there was nowhere to hide from it. We endured it.

    Other thoughts – on the fullness of Orthodoxy. The Church’s life has a decidedly eucharistic center. We are always eating Christ’s Body and Blood or preparing to eat Christ’s Body and Blood. And, I recall St. Paul’s observation that “For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes.” (1Cor. 11:26) The death of Christ is so much more than mere death. It is redeeming death, cosmic suffering, victorious trampling-down-death. It is death suffused with resurrection.

    Of course, everything here has a hometown feel. I’m in a coffee shop this morning. A place that is filled with customers and conversations, mostly young people who probably live in apartments and condos in the thriving gentrified places here in the New South. But, standing in line for my coffee this morning, I was behind a young woman wearing a shirt that said, “I just wanna sit at the feet of Jesus.” The South remains itself in many ways. I have also noticed that several people here and there in the shop have their Bibles open in front of them, reading slowly with markers at the ready.

    The coffee’s good, too.

  37. Kate Avatar
    Kate

    I have been on a long, convoluted journey in my Christian life, from Church of Christ to Pentecostal, to Charismatic, to Reformed, to Anglican (ACNA). My time in the very Calvinistic Reformed stream really solidified a lot of erroneous ways of thinking and of seeing God and the world.
    I have been reading your blog for the last year or so and working my way through your archives. It really feeds my soul and is helping me to very gradually think and see differently. I find myself continually defaulting to the old ways, though, and it’s quite a battle.
    This particular blog really captured my attention because the love of God is really downplayed in the Reformed tradition, even though it is so clearly taught in Scripture!
    I honestly didn’t quite grasp everything you said, but I’m okay with that for now, and am trusting that the understanding will come.
    This sentence really struck me in the heart – “Every thought and action in our lives that is contrary to love is a diminishment of our being.”
    Wow! Descending into non-being scares me. How can I be sure that my thoughts and actions are done in love? I feel like my motives are, at best, mixed, and sometimes completely selfish. I keep asking Christ to fill me with His love so that it both purifies my mind and flows out in my words and actions, but is there more to it than that?
    (Sorry for the length of this, but I felt I needed to preface my question with some background.)

  38. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Kate,
    I have been slowly becoming aware that Reform thought has been quietly growing in its presence and influence. For example, it seems dominant in the ACNA, even though I knew only a couple of Calvinists in my 20 years as an Episcopal priest. It’s a sort of “new” thing. Someone told me this last week that it had gained a huge footing among Baptists (another unheard-of thing in my younger years). I suspect it’s a hunger for depth – though I think of it as a tragic detour. But, I’ll say no more on that.

    Every day we fail to love. Our thoughts and actions are always a mixed bag. Sanity is knowing that this is true and consistently moving towards love – towards Christ in the fullness of His gift to us. There are, of course, any number of counterfeits out there – love without the Cross. So we constantly bring ourselves back to Christ. What I can say is that He is infinitely more committed to our transformation/salvation than we are ourselves. When I turn to Him, I always find that He is standing right there.

    The life of Orthodoxy is especially driven by the rhythm of the sacramental life, particularly centered in the Eucharist. Frequent communion, frequent confession, are rhythms that bring us back to love – and back again – and back again.

    It’s good to have you as a reader – your thoughts and questions are always welcome.

  39. Michael Bauman Avatar
    Michael Bauman

    One thing I am experiencing lately is that while it is easy to be afraid and hide in the challenges of life especially when one has no control; Jesus’ gift to us in such times: lack of money; the darkness of the world (no matter the politics in power); death; the nature of being….

    At the intersection of this world and God’s reality (the Cross?); Joy and laughter prevail despite pain, fear and death. Any saint I have encountered and Jesus Himself keep reminding me to laugh, for the sake of being.

  40. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Fr. Stephen,

    The last portion of your response to Jenny got me to thinking …

    What is it like being an Orthodox priest in the American south? Do you wear
    your priestly clothing in public? If so … I bet you get a lot of stares and maybe even a lot of questions! People with Jesus t-shirts, Bible´s open with highlighters nearby, John 3:16 sandwich boards and Ten Commandments billboard signs … what is an Orthodox priest to do in the Bible Belt???

  41. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Byron. Praying for the grace to hold onto what is right, rather than asking for God to purge of us our sin … well … maybe both are necessary?

    I remember some months ago when I was sharing on the blog about my mother-in-law´s death. I shared that while she was suffering in her bed at the nursing home, I thought in some way I saw the Crucified Christ. I think Fr. Stephen at that moment shared that possibly God was using her deathbed experience and suffering as a way to purge what needed to be purged to prepare her for the next portion of her journey (correct me if I am wrong please Fr. Stephen).

    So Byron … I think purgation of some sort (not necessarily in the Catholic “purgatory” sort of way) takes place in the lives of us all. Even St. Paul in 1 Corinthians 3 talks about being saved by fire. Maybe this flaming salvation is a form of purgation that helps us to become the very thing that God intended us to become so that we no longer have to fear becoming that which we, in the flesh, often cling to … our pain, our egos, our sin, etc.

    If I am correct, I think this is very good news … especially if we understand the fire of God´s love to be restorative rather than retributive; a fire that even purges and purifies a nasty, stubborn will … all to God´s glory.

  42. Kate Avatar
    Kate

    Thank you so much, Fr. Stephen, for your kind response.

    “He is infinitely more committed to our transformation/salvation than we are ourselves. When I turn to Him, I always find that He is standing right there.”

    This phrase is very reassuring and helps a lot.

    As a side note, when we were deciding whether to go to the Anglican church, we specifically asked the two priests if they were Calvinists, and they said they definitely were not. If they had said yes, we would not have joined.

  43. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Kate,
    You asked a healthy question – and I’m encouraged by the answer you received. May God give you grace!

  44. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    I cannot conceive of God having any use for retribution.

  45. Byron Avatar
    Byron

    Matthew, I very much agree. There is a “purging” taking place–and it is “restorative…all to God’s glory” and our salvation. It’s often very difficult for us to see how that all works together. I certainly don’t know! But, if God is “everywhere present, filling all things”, then all these things can be filled with His Grace. I find that comforting.

  46. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    I agree too Byron. Thanks so much for your comments.

    Fr. Stephen wrote:

    “I cannot conceive of God having any use for retribution.”

    This is a powerful statement filled with very good news. It´s an absolute game changer for people with a theological and religious background such as mine.

  47. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    Father,
    I just wanted to thank you for linking the article “The River of Fire”. I had heard of it but hadn’t had the opportunity to read it in full.

    I have found his book on “False Unity”. But not the one “Nostalgia for Paradise”. I’m going to see if I can convince a press to republish it.

  48. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    I have been thinking about fire as the presence of God and how often in our prayers and songs we ask to be saved or rescued from the “eternal fire.” I think that Matthew is on to something, if I correctly understood his question. I think that we either experience fire as a consequence or we experience fire as a choice. I think that there is a sense in which hell and maybe anything can be transformative if it is accepted in grace. Apart from Christ hell is a destroyer. But, in Christ, hell becomes something for which we might give God thanks, it becomes a means of salvation. The apostle wrote, ‘we know that all things work together for good to those who love God.’ Maybe hell too?

  49. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Psalm 139: “Lo, if I descend into Hell, Thou art there.” I’ve long prayed that if I must descend into hell (as God only knows), and if He is with me, then I will rejoice and be content. Praying, “Only, do not leave me alone.”

    As I’ve stated many times, I draw no conclusions about the end of all things. I don’t know about “things.” What I am certain of is the undying and unlimited love of God. The practice of giving thanks always and for all things (little by little), is, I think, learning to stand in the fire in the right manner. All things are indeed working together for good.

  50. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Hello Simon. When I consider St. Paul´s words in 1 Corinthians 3 about being saved by fire, I assume he means all except the most holy saints must go through the flames of God´s love. Almost no one (I assume) will be fully perfected before their earthly death. If that perfection through purgation and fire happens in hell … well … that I am not certain of. Christ defeated hell and all its legions. As such, what role does “hell” play if it has already been defeated? I think we need to start by defining what we mean by hell from an Orthodox perspective.

    Fr. Stephen … why do you think you might need to descend into hell?

  51. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    Matthew,
    I believe Father referred to God’s love which in some cases will feel like fire. That doesn’t suggest to me that hell is a necessity. But there are Orthodox saints who in prayer and practice were taught not to avoid such fire of hell and not to despair if they find themselves in it because like the Psalm Father quoted, Christ is there with us.

  52. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    I believe it would have been better to have said not to resist hell rather than use the word avoid… but to be honest I find it difficult to not resist and be vulnerable to frustration to the point of despair. — only through the grace of God do I pull through. Only in hindsight or in hope and love am I capable of being grateful.

  53. Margaret Avatar
    Margaret

    Thank you for all your words, Fr. Stephen! This morning I am especially thankful to Our Lord and to you for your words in comments here:

    “What I am certain of is the undying and unlimited love of God. The practice of giving thanks always and for all things (little by little), is, I think, learning to stand in the fire in the right manner. All things are indeed working together for good.”

    God has blessed my life and so the lives I come in contact with because of this reassurance that you so willingly share. God bless you and yours always!

  54. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    Don’t get bogged down in time-line thought. It’s a dead end. Think about the love of God.

  55. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Margaret,
    Many thanks to you!

  56. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Dee.

    I understand Fr. Stephen, but I like many are simply trying to reconcile a loving God with all the different understandings of hell. Orthodoxy seems to offer the most loving view (which may in part be why so many people are converting to Orthodoxy), but it still in some ways mirrors the western understanding simply because it won’t dogmatically make a pronouncement in favor of universal salvation or apokatastasis.

    I am searching for healing, peace and love both here AND in the next world. Is that so bad?

  57. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    The answer, I think, is found in actually knowing God. Finding an ideology that we like doesn’t satisfy in the long run. As I’ve noted, the comfort I have is in knowing God more and more deeply and coming to trust in His love. I don’t think we have a very detailed road map for these things. Seek God. Perhaps I would put it like this: God is a universalist (“not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance”). God is not the problem or even the question. We are the unknown problem. And that is something to which we don’t have the answer.

  58. Esmée Noelle Covey Avatar
    Esmée Noelle Covey

    Yes, Father, exactly!

    Matthew, about two years ago I had a most amazing experience of healing within a very broken relationship that only Christ could have accomplished. It was done in a way that I could never have conceived rationally-speaking, and it all unfolded so incredibly beautifully and naturally. I had read, studied, and “believed” Orthodox theology for almost 20 years prior to this profound healing, but that was not responsible for the deep emotional healing that experienced through a miracle that involved my own Baptismal Saint (Elisabeth the New Martyr of Russia), our Most Holy Theotokos, and the Sacraments of His Church that Christ lovingly bestowed on both me and the other person. This is not a Faith that one can come to truly know only through the mind. Christ loves us more than we can possibly understand!

  59. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Fr. Stephen.
    I’ll try to heed your advice.

    How are we an “unknown problem” ?

  60. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    God has made His will known: “He is not willing that any should perish…” We are the unknown – as in – what, in the end, will we do with the gift of Divine Love? “Will all be saved?” is not a question about God, but about human beings. And I don’t know the answer to that question. God knows.

  61. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Esmèe.

    Thanks also Fr. Stephen.

  62. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    Father,
    I think an important aspect of the life in Christ as taught in the Orthodox Church is the life lived (ie in the heart). Such understanding allows an Orthodox bishop to say about a priest’s son who was an agnostic that perhaps the son would be saved but the bishop and priest not.

  63. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Dee,
    Indeed. The whole juridically-driven speech pattern that has come to re-define words like “saved” make it difficult for those outside the Orthodox thought/speech world to understand such statements. It’s a pity.

  64. Kenneth Avatar
    Kenneth

    In my prior days as an evangelical Protestant, I frequently heard that “Christ went to the Cross so we don’t have to.” In fact, this was presented as the “good news” of the Gospel. Even then, I realized that this was a false gospel, because it contradicts so much that Jesus explicitly taught. It’s an easy and convenient counterfeit gospel. Orthodoxy in contrast is quite hard and challenging, but true.

  65. Michael Bauman Avatar
    Michael Bauman

    I think it critical to realize that the Orthodox faith is built on at least 3 levels: 1. Holy Scripture; 2. Worship (personal, corporate{people together with saints and angels) the 3. Revelation of the Holy Trinity
    There is a lot going on. So much that the Holy Mother reminded me as I left my first Orthodox service to come back and experience more of the life of worship.
    My brain, heart and being all interact with the Heavens in each of

  66. Esmée Noelle Covey Avatar
    Esmée Noelle Covey

    I have been re-reading the Philokalia and came across this passage about the fire of Last Judgment which might be relevant to this conversation…

    “Since the day of judgment will be one of fire, what each of us has done, as St Paul says, will be tested by fire (cf. 1 Cor. 3:13). Thus, if what we have built up is of an incorruptible nature, it will not be destroyed by fire; and not only will it not be consumed, but it will be made radiant, totally purified of whatever small amount of filth may adhere to it. But if the work with which we have burdened ourselves consists of corruptible matter, it will be consumed and burnt up and we will be left destitute in the midst of the fire (cf. 1 Cor. 3:13-15). Incorruptible and imperishable actions are the following: tears of repentance, acts of charity, compassion, prayer, humility, faith, hope, love and whatever else is done in a spirit of devotion. Even while we are still alive such actions help to build us up into a holy temple of God (cf. Eph. 2:21-22), while when we die they accompany us and remain incorruptibly with us for ever. The actions which are consumed by the fire are well known to all: self-indulgence, vainglory, avarice, hatred, envy, theft, drunkenness, abusiveness, censoriousness, and anything else of a base nature to which our appetites or incensive power prompts us to give bodily expression. Such actions pollute us even while we are still living and consumed by the fire of desire; and when we are wrenched away from the body, they accompany us but do not survive. On the contrary, they are destroyed…”

    +Saint Nikitas Stithatos, vol. 4, p. 203, Kindle Ed.

  67. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much for the quote from the Philokalia, Esmée. It is absolutely wonderful. Beautiful. Filled with so much hope!

    Fr. Stephen … it is such a pity that so many simply do not know or will not accept the beauty of salvation as understood and experienced in the classical Church.

    I have a guy at work who everytime we talk about the faith (he is an ex-JW and now some sort of an evangelical) he always asks “Well where is that in the Bible?” Where on earth do you go from such a question during a short break at work? I usually just let him spew his stuff and then I move on.

    My point is … in terms of salvific understanding … so many people miss the beauty because they won´t allow themselves to be opened up to more than “What the Bible says” in the way they were taught to interpret it. They won´t open themselves up to the Church.

    As you said … “It´s a pity.”

  68. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Esmée,
    What an interesting passage – that goes far in commenting on St. Paul’s 1Cor. 3 passage. Many thanks!

  69. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    The creation of “Bible Christianity” in its many forms was, I think, a serious distortion of the faith – on so many levels. That being said, I would suggest finding verses that you both love in common and talk about those.

  70. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Fr. Stephen.

  71. Mallory Avatar
    Mallory

    Thank you for this post and for all of the comments. I’ve been doing a lot of caretaking and have just had a chance to read.

    I want to say thank you to Simon the Expectorator, I relate so much to your comment, especially about your mother. The ‘foul stench’ I’ve been thinking a lot about–my mother’s soul seems to be in such darkness that I can detect it in a physical way, meaning it feels to me like I can literally smell and perceive it energetically. Before she was sick, she presented as powerful, even glamorous, and was extremely abusive. Now, that facade is crumbling and it’s not pretty. There is no redemption arc.

    I wonder often about why some children seem to have been raised by genuinely loving parents and other by parents who are just hurt big kids who hurt people, especially their own children. I know there are no perfect parents, but there are certainly parents with good hearts and good intentions. My anger at God is pretty simple, at the end of the day: I know I have a good heart, why give me parents who were so wounded? Why give me a legacy of narcissism, abuse, alcoholism and extreme materialism and criticism and obsessions with appearances? How to reconcile a loving God with the trenches he has set up for some of us, supposedly His “children” who He loves? How can one not question this love when faced with a family one did not choose?

    I like that in Buddhism there are definitive answers for this: you were born into the situation because of your past karma. Your past lives. Something you did put you in this situation, it is not random, and only you in your present can get yourself out. But there are no such answers I’ve found in the church. Just mystery. Most of all, I pray that I do all I can not to pass all of this on to my daughter. May she keep her joy and her light and it not be snuffed out by broken grown-ups.

    I know these are all impossible questions, but they are what keep me up at night.

    Thanks for this space. Blessings to all.

  72. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    Mallory,
    I’ve met beautiful in soul people who have come out of terrible home experiences and deeply flawed people who came from a home that had love. The ways of the heart are an unknown to us. But wherever there is beauty there is God at work in a visible way, and where we see darkness the is the unseen God.

    I think the Buddhist explanation sounds logical if one perceives God to be a punishing god (from a Christologically-associated perspective).

    A few decades back I studied Buddhism (not as a practitioner—for a world religions class). As I understand it (admittedly I’m ignorant) the Buddhist venerates Buddha but does not believe in God as Person. If that is true then even when I wasn’t a Christian, I still believed in God as Person and wouldn’t have likely become a Buddhist.

    It may seem odd to say I had a relationship with the God of the OT and walked on the road to Emmaus (for a long time!) not realizing that the Presence I had been aware of was that of Christ. Even now my expression of those long years is inadequate. But I see it now in better light and in hindsight.

  73. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    Mallory,
    I read in your comment such deep grief and I know from personal experience as one you have expressed how deeply difficult and painful it is. I pray our Lord shows His blessings. I believe with such a loving mother your child is a happy and secure child.

  74. Dee of Sts Herman and Olga Avatar
    Dee of Sts Herman and Olga

    Mallory,
    Please forgive me for adding one more comment.
    The work of our Lord is often unseen. Described in the Bible as a seed in the ground that with the Life of God breaks open underground and begins to grow—all unseen.

    You mentioned that there is no redemptive arc in your story about your mother. These experiences you have had must have been extremely traumatizing, more than likely beyond what can be described in words. I have such great sympathy for you and pray for healing. I believe such healing will happen because you have a loving heart. Only a loving heart is hurt so much and yet it can be healed even with scars remaining.

    I believe that there is a redemptive arc. It is the seed of love planted in your own heart.

  75. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Mallory,
    The Christian story tells us that we are in a war – (or metaphors similar to that). The purpose of all creation is to be united with God and the joy and wonder of the fullness of being. Against that are the various “forces” of evil – the devil, the demons, etc. They seem to be in rebellion against God and hate “being” (the essential goodness) and would choose themselves above all. The Church Fathers describe such evil as a “parasite.” It has not true substance of its own, but seeks to corrupt us and use us. And so we fight back.

    It would make a sort of “logical” sense that bad parents would produce bad children. And yet, we discover that it doesn’t work like that – something else is at work. What you describe in your experience of your mother – “did not work” – it did not make you like her. That, I believe, is the work of grace which is ever new and ever at work despite whatever evil is thrown in our way.

    I think a weakness in Buddhism is the ability to sort of “write someone off” – to ascribe their evil to something done in a previous life and leave to a later life to fix. Christianity has no reincarnation – we get one life, always and forever. It raises the stakes for love – for a love that is relentless and doesn’t give up – that loves regardless. It is what we see in Christ. Even on the Cross He speaks saying, “Father, forgive them.”

    May He give us grace.

  76. Bonnie Avatar
    Bonnie

    Mallory,
    Years ago I sat beside the hospital bed of my dying mother for several weeks. She could not hold a conversation. I was experiencing serious physical health issues; and felt exhausted mentally and emotionally. A counsellor took me aside to ask me about the relationship between me and my mother. After listening to me, she said, “I truly believe your mother must have been suffering from a mental illness most of her life.”
    This was the most healing thing I had ever heard. My mother was not essentially negative, controlling, suspicious; not of her own will at least, but wounded. This limited her ability to choose to act with love and compassion.
    Now I can pray for her healing, the Lord being my helper.

  77. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Hello Mallory. Thanks so much for sharing such details from your personal life. It encouraged me to briefly share some of mine:

    I dare not compare what I went through growing up to anyone else´s experience; the experience is distinctly my own. I had a very dysfunctional relationship with both my father and my mother. There was abuse on a variety of levels all from my father. While I cannot prove it scientifically, I believe my father caused the anxiety disorder and the bipolar disorder that I must now live with. I am 55 years old and since the age of about 35 I have struggled with mental illness that has handicapped me on so many levels. After years of both Christian and secular therapy, I am finally beginning to see the light, but from an earthly perspective I will never get back those lost years.

    All that said, some might ask “Matthew, how on earth were you able to retain your belief in God as good given all that you have gone through?” Personally, I am not sure myself, but in all I have gone through I don´t think I have ever stopped believing in God´s absolute goodness. The problem of evil is a massive one Mallory, I´ll give you that, and I know it keeps a lot of people from embracing the Gospel and entering the Church, but is God really to blame for the bad parents some people have; for the darkness that exists in the souls of many? For me, I don´t believe God caused the suffering I went through growing up, but I do believe what I went through is ultimately being used for my good; for my salvation. Most worldviews want to erase suffering or offer one explanation after the next for suffering. Christianity doesn´t appear to be like that, which is why so many walk away from being a disciple of Christ.

    I´ll end this comment by saying that I have learned a lot about Buddhism. Besides it´s meditative practices, I don´t think there is much it has to offer us as a substantial religious worldview. As I understand it, Buddhism believes the material world is an illusion and that even the self is an illusion. Was the Holocaust an illusion for those who went through its horrors? There is no God in Buddhism. There is no relationship between the human and the Divine. I think it is relationship that all humans long for (even if they are unaware of it) as well as a divine actualization of their true selves, but in this arena Buddhism doesn´t seem to offer a way forward. There is only discipline and practice following the teachings of Buddha in order to reduce and ultimately eliminate suffering in one´s life. For me, it is this that is the illusion; sadly illusion through confusion.

  78. Esmée Noelle Covey Avatar
    Esmée Noelle Covey

    Matthew, God may not literally restore to us the years of our lives that seem to us to be “lost,” but he can definitely heal our hearts of the pain and suffering and sorrow of those “lost” years. I have personally experienced this kind of healing, where the years I formerly considered to be “lost” simply no longer mattered to my sense of well-being in the present. God healed my heart in a very unexpected way and I finally understood this promise He has given us in Holy Scripture:

    “And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten…” (Joel 2:25)

  79. Esmée Noelle Covey Avatar
    Esmée Noelle Covey

    And I should add that, in my case, I am 100% certain that without all the pain, suffering, sorrow, and sickness that has filled my life, I never would have opened my heart to Christ. I know plenty of young people who were raised by wonderful, loving, emotionally-balanced parents who left the Church soon after leaving home. I feel that hardships in life are often required to bring many of us to Christ. The seeming randomness of my own suffering, and the suffering of other essentially “good” people that I knew, made so little “sense” to me that it caused me to seek a higher meaning in it all. I studied a lot of different religions and philosophies, including Buddhism, and I was not satisfied by any of them. They always left me with something wanting. The idea of reincarnation and paying for past sins in my current life that I was unaware of having committed in past lives seemed so utterly unloving to me that I could not believe in a God who would set up such a mean system, one that seemed to be ultimately inescapable. Once I found the Orthodox Church, and came to have a true understanding of Christ by reading the lives of the Saints who are the most supreme examples of His teachings, I knew He offered something that I wanted more than anything this sad world could give me. Christ offers us a way to transfigure our pain, suffering, sorrow, and sickness into something unimaginably beautiful; but in order for that to happen, we must give it all to Him in faith. I hope this makes sense.

  80. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Esmee! What a promise! I believe I missed that verse from Joel or I forgot about it. (Sorry for not accenting the e in your name. I don’t know how to do it right now)

  81. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Does it ever make sense Esmee! Amen.

  82. Mallory Avatar
    Mallory

    Thank you all so much for your loving and wise comments.

    Esmée, it’s true that the Buddhist view of endless reincarnation without memories is a very cruel model. Perhaps I just fear that it’s true, they seem to have such certainty about it– and I really really don’t want to come back here! I love this:

    “And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten…” (Joel 2:25)

    What a beautiful promise.

    Love to all.

  83. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Mallory,
    The Judaeo-Christian take on the human person (which is raised even higher in Christianity) is rooted in each human being created in the image of God, with an eternal life – the fullness of personhood shaped in/by love. It is that religious tradition that gave rise to hospitals, care for the poor, the entire notion of human rights, etc. You are of infinite value – and you/we are only doing this once and forever.

    I love that Joel verse –

  84. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    I like this verse too:

    Hebrews 9:27 – “And just as it is appointed for mortals to die once, and after that the judgment,”

    As an evangelical, I was taught that this verse clearly denounced the notion of reincarnation.

    The Joel verse is absolutely beautiful!

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