The Violence of Modernity – And A Way Out

The calm voice at the helm says, “Make it so…” and with it, the mantra of modernity is invoked. The philosophy that governs our culture is rooted in violence, the ability to make things happen and to control the outcome. It is a deeply factual belief. We can indeed make things happen, and, in a limited way, control their outcome. But we soon discover (and have proven it time and again) that our ability to control is quite limited. Many, many unforeseeable consequences flow from every action. If I am working in a very, self-contained environment, then the illusion of total control can be maintained for a very long time. If, say, I am building a watch, my actions and their results can remain on a desktop. However, when the scale of action begins to increase, the lack of true control begins to manifest itself. Actions on the level of an entire society or culture are beyond our ability to manage. A culture is not a very large watch.

But we think it is. That delusion lies at the very heart of the philosophy of modernity.

The arguments supporting the success of modernity are always misleading. The single desired effect becomes the focus while the unintended consequences that follow in its wake are ignored. Modernity always wins, because it cooks the books.

The work of “making it so,” is always an act of violence. We take what is not so and force it to be otherwise. Whether it is the violence of a plow making a field suitable for planting, or the violence of creating a parking lot, human beings have formed and shaped their world by “making it so,” throughout our existence. The field and the parking lot, as innocuous and innocent as they may be, also create consequences that were not part of the plan. The only means of dealing with these consequences are to employ more violence to alter things yet again (requiring yet more violence, ad infinitum), or to treat the consequences as an acceptable change.

In this sense, to be an active part of the world is to employ violence. We do not sit lightly on the surface of our planet. Most human societies across history, have made a moderate peace with the world in which they live, using forms of violence whose consequences have been well-enough tolerated and accounted for so as to be bearable. The rate of change in such societies was modest, and within the limits that a culture could easily accommodate.

Large and rapid change is another thing entirely. “Changing the world,” under a variety of slogans, is the essence of the modern project. Modernity is not about how to live rightly in the world, but about how to make the world itself live rightly. The difference could hardly be greater. The inception of modernity, across the 18th and 19th centuries, was marked by revolution. The Industrial Revolution, the rise of various forms of capitalism, the birth of the modern state with its political revolutions, all initiated a period of ceaseless change marked by winners and losers. Of course, success is measured by statistics that blur the edges of reality. X-number of people find their incomes increased, while only Y-number of people suffer displacement and ruination. So long as X is greater than Y, the change is a success. The trick is to be an X.

The ceaseless re-invention of the better world rarely takes stock of its own actions. That large amounts of any present ruination that are the result of the last push for progress is ignored. It is treated as nothing more than another set of problems to be fixed. As the fixes add up, a toxic culture begins to emerge: food that cannot be eaten; air that cannot be breathed; relationships that cannot be endured; safety that cannot be maintained, etc. As the toxicity rises, so the demand for ever more action and change grows, and, with it, the increase in violence (of all types). The amount of our human existence that now requires rather constant technological intervention is staggering. The entire modern pattern of dating, marriage, family and procreation are impossible without chemical and biological intervention. There has been no “sexual revolution,” only the application of technology into one of the most all-pervasive and normal parts of human existence, creating an artificial aspect to our lives that rests on violence. The abortion of nearly one-third of all children conceived is but a single example. The foundations of our present society are built on doing profound violence to human nature.

It should be noted that I have not suggested some mode of existence that is free of violence. Human beings make things happen, as does most of creation. Modernity, however, is another matter. Its better world has no limits, its project is never-ending. What are the proper limits of violence? Are there boundaries that must not be crossed?

Modernity has as its goal the creation of a better world with no particular reference to God – it is a secular concept. As such, that which constitutes “better” is, or can be, a shifting definition. In Soviet Russia it was one thing, in Nazi Germany another, in Consumer-Capitalist societies yet another still. Indeed, that which is “better” is often the subject of the political sphere. But there is no inherent content to the “better,” nor any inherent limits on the measures taken to achieve it. The pursuit of the better (“progress”) becomes its own morality. [An aside: Are you being consulted about the changes that will come about as the result of AI?]

The approach of classical Christianity does not oppose change (there is always change), nor does it deny that one thing might be better than another. But the “good” which gives every action its meaning is God Himself, as made known in Christ. In classical terms, this is expressed as “keeping the commandments.” Those commandments are summarized in the love of God and the love of neighbor. There are other elements within the commandments of Christ that minimize and restrict the use of violence.

There is, for example, no commandment to make the world a better place, nor even to make progress towards a better world. The “better world” concept is, historically, a heretical borrowing from Christianity, a secularization of the notion of the Kingdom of God, translated into terms of progressive technology and laws (violence). But, in truth, the management of history’s outcomes is idolatrous. Only God controls the outcome of history.

My experience is that questioning our responsibility for history’s outcome will always be met with anxious objections that we would be agreeing “to do nothing” and the results would be terrible. Keeping the commandments of Christ is not doing nothing. It is, however, the refusal to use violence to force the world into ever-changing imaginary versions of the good.

I will cite a somewhat controversial example (all examples would be controversial, for modernists love nothing better than to argue about how to next use violence to improve the world). Consider the task of education. Teaching children to read, write and do numbers is not a terribly modern thing. It has been done for centuries, and, occasionally, done rather successfully. But the education industry (a subset of government) exists as an ever-changing set of standards, techniques, and procedures, whose constantly changing results occasion ever-increasing testing, change, control, management and violence to yield frequently lesser results. It has largely produced a cult of management and administration (the bane of every teacher’s existence). This example could be, mutatis mutandis, multiplied over the whole of our increasingly dysfunctional culture.

Sadly, as the results of modernity’s violent progress become more dysfunctional, the greater the temptation grows to do more of the same. Every problem is greeted only with the question of how it might be fixed, with no one ever suggesting that the fixing of the world might be our largest problem.

Again, this is not an all-or-nothing thing. The classical world was not passive nor was there an absence of change. Modernity has chosen economics as the measure of the good, treating increasing productivity as the engine of progress and prosperity as the primary measure of a better world. Debates over the best means of driving such productivity, whether through command-and-control or passive market forces, have been the primary arguments within modernity.

There are many, many other goods that could be, and have been the measure of a culture. The only reason for using economic productivity is the false belief that material prosperity is the fount of all blessings. If we are rich enough, we will be happy.

At the very dark end of the spectrum, America’s philosophical assumptions have made it the servant of modernity-as-export where literal violence is the day-to-day result. Remaking the Middle East has not only failed (completely) but cost hundreds of thousands of lives, a large proportion of which were complete innocents. The resulting chaos has been, at best, a distraction from our unrelenting pleasure in the entertainment industry, though our wars have generated a very popular genre of video game. Violence itself has become a consumer product.

This picture of the modern world can, in the modern Christian mind, provoke an immediate response of wondering what can be done to change it. The difficult answer is to quit living as though modernity were true. Quit validating modernity’s questions. Do not ask, “How can we fix the world?” Instead, ask, “How should Christians live?” and give the outcome of history back to God.

How should we live?

  • First, live as though in the coming of Jesus Christ, the Kingdom of God has been inaugurated into the world and the outcome of history has already been determined. (Quit worrying)
  • Second, love people as the very image of God and resist the temptation to improve them.
  • Third, refuse to make economics the basis of your life. Your job is not even of secondary importance.
  • Fourth, quit arguing about politics as though the political realm were the answer to the world’s problems. It gives it power that is not legitimate and enables a project that is anti-God.
  • Fifth, learn to love your enemies. God did not place them in the world for us to fix or eliminate. If possible, refrain from violence.
  • Sixth, raise the taking of human life to a matter of prime importance and refuse to accept violence as a means to peace. Every single life is a vast and irreplaceable treasure.
  • Seventh, cultivate contentment rather than pleasure. It will help you consume less and free you from slavery to your economic masters.
  • Eighth, as much as possible, think small. You are not in charge of the world. Love what is local, at hand, personal, intimate, unique, and natural. It’s a preference that matters.
  • Ninth, learn another language. Very few things are better at teaching you about who you are not.
  • Tenth, be thankful for everything, remembering that the world we live in and everything in it belongs to God.

That’s but a minor list, a few things that occur to me offhand. They are things that encourage us to live in a “non-modern” manner. It is worth noting that when Roman soldiers approached John the Baptist and asked him how they should live, he told them to be content with their wages and to do violence to no one. They were in charge of the world in their day – or so they could mistakenly think. My few bits of advice are of a piece with that beloved saint’s words.

About Fr. Stephen Freeman

Fr. Stephen is a retired Archpriest of the Orthodox Church in America. He is also author of Everywhere Present: Christianity in a One-Storey Universe, and Face to Face: Knowing God Beyond Our Shame, as well as the Glory to God podcast series on Ancient Faith Radio.



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71 responses to “The Violence of Modernity – And A Way Out”

  1. Melba Whitaker Avatar
    Melba Whitaker

    Thank you – I needed to hear this and to read your list at the end – finally a true Christian response.

  2. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    2 quick questions:

    Are farmers now criminals because they plow their fields violently? 🙂

    How are we to understand the Genesis commandment to subdue creation? Is this only referring to environmental creation care?

    Other than that, I wish I had read this article first 2 years or so ago when I started reading this blog! Thanks.

  3. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    Yes, farmers do violence, I said as much in the article. But note this paragraph:

    In this sense, to be an active part of the world is to employ violence. We do not sit lightly on the surface of our planet. Most human societies across history, have made a moderate peace with the world in which they live, using forms of violence whose consequences have been well-enough tolerated and accounted for so as to be bearable. The rate of change in such societies was modest, and within the limits that a culture could easily accommodate.

    To be a Christian is not to become an ideologue. There is the need for virtue: prudence, wisdom, etc. Some forms of farming are more violent, more consequential than others. We choose to live lightly when we can. A farmer should love the land. In my experience, most farmers do precisely that. It is only when the economics of modernity push them ever further into extreme measures of productivity, etc., that the violence becomes problematic. As noted in the article, economics (profit) is insufficient as a measure of what is good.

    A very weak link in modernity is its dismal vision of the good, and the inability of its political systems to articulate the good. The state cannot do what a truly faith-based culture can and should do.

  4. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Fr. Stephen:

    You said:

    “The state cannot do what a truly faith-based culture can and should do.”

    We had a faith-based culture in Europe. It lead to religious wars and bloodshed. It burned “heretics” at the stake. The secularists seemed to have saved Europe from this craziness, then they too began to shed blood. The story of Cain and Abel lingers on an on … sadly … regardless of who is in control.

    I just want to be like Christ.

  5. Mark Spurlock Avatar
    Mark Spurlock

    Father Stephen,

    A superb list; I will comment on the most specific admonition in it (“learn another language” because my daughter and I were discussing language on our drive home from church yesterday. Even if a person studies other languages without ever becoming fluent, the study can lead to awareness that other humans not only have different thoughts, but the majority of them formulate their thoughts differently from English speakers.

    Discovering these truths are important to counter the error that language shapes and even controls reality. When you become aware of the fundamental differences in language, you realize how much your tongue informs your perception, but only of one approximation of reality.

  6. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Mark.

    Even though I can understand and speak German, I have a feeling when I am talking in German I am really talking like an American. In other words, I don´t formulate my thoughts like Germans. This reality sometimes negatively affects communication with family members, but it teaches me too that humans are very different from one another.

  7. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Humans … also … share a lot in common Mark. Didn´t want to forget that! 🙂

  8. David E. Rockett Avatar

    Thank you Father…good stuff to ponder here.
    david

  9. Mark Spurlock Avatar
    Mark Spurlock

    Matthew:

    Of course…because language is acquired. Had you been born in a German-speaking country and learned German first, then it would be the tool you were most familiar with for expressing thoughts and trying to represent reality when communicating.

    Language is an important general trapping of humanity, but the particular is circumstantial.

  10. Justin Avatar
    Justin

    I (we, including my wife) have just now come to realize the “illusion of control” when it comes to our, now mostly grown, children. Thus, our failures are starkly evident and accusing. I know it’s a lie, but it seems impossible to not believe it, to not blame myself for the failures of our children. At times it’s overwhelming. There is a lesson here we haven’t understood, not yet, that is likely centered on repentance.

  11. Helen Avatar
    Helen

    Thank you Father. Beautiful reminder of how to live.
    The illusion of being X …we seemed to be losing that here in the States; it began for me with 9-11 attacks. It continues with the increasingly common catastrophic weather and their effects on my insurance premiums.

  12. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Justin,
    I’ve counseled with young parents who are afraid they’ll make mistakes with their children. I assure them that they definitely will. Therefore, they should pray, repent, and ask forgiveness of one another often. Nobody gets it right. Some just get it a little righter than others…and there’s a lot of genetics and epigenetics involved…and…when they’re teens, they’re bathed in a culture over which we pretty much no control at all.

    Children will break your heart and teach you to love. God give us grace!

  13. Susannah Avatar
    Susannah

    Beautiful article, Father. Thank you! Here is a nice poem by our friend Barbara Roquemore:
    (For A little Bird)
    Your winged messenger arrived
    In the hour of sunset.
    All nature quiet and calm.
    A soft breeze Faded, a last breath
    Before earth falls into depth of dark.

    The messenger sang your words
    In a language I did not know,
    But my heart opened, Listened.
    Northern was under my control.

    He told me Who sent him.
    That I had not Listened to others who came.
    Persons, creatures, plants, waters.
    Shells, stones, even soil, waiting for me.
    Each spoke in its language your message, Your name,

    Your winged messenger sang “don’t Forget,
    This is not the world you belong to,
    But it offers the path to the Father Who waits.
    Accept all as His Will. ”Pain, illness mere shadows
    From the cross of His son. Follow these Footsteps home.”

    The messenger Flew off still singing
    “ Don’t forget, live in the world of the heart.
    Listen to the messengers.”
    _____________

    Then

  14. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Susannah,
    Thank you!

  15. Susanah Avatar
    Susanah

    Forgive me father, I posted an unedited version of my friends nice poem. It should read:

    (For A little Bird)

    Your winged messenger arrived
    In the hour of sunset.
    All nature quiet and calm.
    A soft breeze faded, a last breath
    Before earth falls into depth of dark.

    The messenger sang your words
    In a language I did not know,
    But my heart opened, Listened.
    Nothing was under my control.

    He told me Who sent him.
    That I had not Listened to others who came.
    Persons, creatures, plants, waters.
    Shells, stones, even soil, waiting for me.
    Each spoke in its language your message, Your name,

    Your winged messenger sang “don’t forget,
    This is not the world you belong to,
    But it offers the path to the Father Who waits.
    Accept all as His Will. ”Pain, illness mere shadows
    From the cross of His son. Follow these footsteps home.”

    The messenger flew off still singing
    “ Don’t forget, live in the world of the heart.
    Listen to the messengers.”
    _____________
    It would appear that one cof the first consequences of the Fall resulted in an act of violence initiated by God Himself… the procuring of the skins to clothe the naked Adam and Eve. It wophld seem all of creation was troiubled by man’s disobedience. Dear God, Forgive us and bring all creation back home toi a peraceful God.

    I suppose even taking antibiotics will be an act of violence against someone.

  16. Susannah Avatar
    Susannah

    (For A little Bird)

    Your winged messenger arrived
    In the hour of sunset.
    All nature quiet and calm.
    A soft breeze faded, a last breath
    Before earth falls into depth of dark.

    The messenger sang your words
    In a language I did not know,
    But my heart opened, Listened.
    Nothing was under my control.

    He told me Who sent him.
    That I had not Listened to others who came.
    Persons, creatures, plants, waters.
    Shells, stones, even soil, waiting for me.
    Each spoke in its language your message, Your name,

    Your winged messenger sang “don’t forget,
    This is not the world you belong to,
    But it offers the path to the Father Who waits.
    Accept all as His Will. ”Pain, illness mere shadows
    From the cross of His son. Follow these footsteps home.”

    The messenger flew off still singing
    “ Don’t forget, live in the world of the heart.
    Listen to the messengers.”
    _____________

  17. Jason Williams Avatar
    Jason Williams

    Dear Father
    I am an Englishman living in Japan for many years and started attending a local church several years ago. I started reading your posts and listening to your talks recently. It’s difficult to express how wonderful this has been. Japan is a typical example of a secular nation relying on ever more technology and having contact with your thoughts has allowed me to see how i have been unconsciously trying to shape being a Christian into a modern society.
    Moreover we are a family of three all struggling with various illnesses but you have provided a perspective where we are able to accept our situation more readily.
    Thank you for everything you do and for the technology that has allowed this!!
    Glory to God!

  18. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Jason,
    May God preserve you! And thanks for the note!

  19. Jp Esnouf Avatar
    Jp Esnouf

    Thank you Fr. Stephen,

    Someone once said the truth will first make you angry before it can set you free. I think it could be better phrased; The truth will first kill you before it sets you free.

    Its no easy thing living in this ‘modern’ world we have created.

    I was wondering how you would interpret “And from the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force” (Matthew 11:12)?

  20. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Jp,
    It is something of a metaphor, isn’t it, inasmuch as the Kingdom of God and the created world have very different natures. The created order is changed by our use of violence (a furrow is plowed, a man is killed, etc.). The Kingdom of God, “suffering violence,” is not itself changed (it is eternal and does not change) but the one employing the “violence” is himself changed – he becomes like the Kingdom of God itself.

    As I noted earlier, Christians are not ideologues. It’s not that violence is somehow evil. It is its misuse and its unwise use that is problematic. Modernity, according to GK Chesterton, is “the virtues run wild” (or something to effect).

  21. Dee of St Herman Avatar
    Dee of St Herman

    Father,
    It seems those who have wrought violence tend to be ideologues. Especially it seems among Americans who call themselves Christians. I have trouble conceptualising a separation between the ideological and violence. Where there is violence there is typically some ideological purpose. Pease forgive my need for better understanding. I’m not able to see examples of the use of violence without some ideological purpose.

    So often I’ve heard some major catastrophe as an act of God for punishment of sinful people. I know that this is the Western version of the “angry god”. It is hard to place extreme catastrophes as a process for good. Yet I have an icon of St Olga that says God can make great beauty from complete desolation.

  22. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Hello Dee.

    I am a bit confused myself. When the church ran things in Europe, there was a lot of violence and bloodshed. It was supposed to be a faith-based culture that was grounded in Jesus Christ, but it was violent. Were they simply ideologues run amok? Could the same happen again?

    I am not for one minute siding with the secularists, but they did seem to cool religious violence down in Europe so many centuries ago. They of course then became violent themselves. I love the Church, but I am not blind to its violent past. I am also aware of the horror of secular violence. It seems violence is part of the process of living in a broken world sadly. I just want to be like Christ.

    All that said, I know Eastern Orthodoxy does not share the same history as the Church in the west.

  23. Byron Avatar
    Byron

    Matthew,

    I tend to think that the Western Church was often taking part in a struggle for corporate power in a very divided Europe–something the Eastern Church did not typically take part in (as far as I can tell). A lot will depend on the [i]level[/i] of violence of which we speak. There has always been violence throughout the world on some level, and the Church is no outlier there.

    As my priest has stated, Orthodoxy has a confusing history with the use of violence. It may be that the Church, as a corporate entity, has not been involved in grand actions, but there are many instances of soldiers and monks being blessed to take part in war.

    Altogether, my own thoughts tend to simply acknowledge our failures (however they are seen) and do what we can in our own lives to avoid damaging others through violent acts, words, etc. I don’t mean to handwave it, but the history of violence may be a bit above my paygrade….

  24. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Dee,
    It’s very easy to turn our Christianity into an ideology, and in the name of the ideology do terrible things. I keep saying, “Keep the commandments.” The managing of the world in the name of Christ is a sure and certain way to destruction.

  25. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    “When the Church ran things…” it was one of many temptations. We have no commandment to be in charge of the world. How can the leaders of nations find the way to Christ when we abandon His commandments?

  26. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Byron and Fr. Stephen.

    Byron, would it be fair to say that because the eastern Church was under so much persecution it didn´t have the ability to “run things” the way the Church ran things in the west? If we say yes that this is fair to say, then I´m wondering if such persecution in the east had not taken place would the eastern Church have taken the worldly bait the way the Church in the west did?

    Fr. Stephen said:

    “When the Church ran things…” it was one of many temptations. We have no commandment to be in charge of the world. How can the leaders of nations find the way to Christ when we abandon His commandments?”

    This is a very good question ….

  27. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    What might have happened under different circumstances is always impossible to know. Orthodoxy struggles with many things up to and including the present times.

  28. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Fr. Stephen.

  29. Laurie Marvin Avatar
    Laurie Marvin

    Hi, Fr. Stephen. To play devils advocate, politics is part of the world we live in. Should the church or world speak to these situations? Slavery, inequality, war, the death penalty, abortion. I brought up Russia and its war in Ukraine. I notice that question was left unanswered. Its your blog and of course you have the right to control the conversation, but I was somewhat disappointed. In times of great moral difficulty, it seems as though some decisions must be made internally, even if one has little power over their ultimate outcomes.

  30. Laurie Marvin Avatar
    Laurie Marvin

    Sorry, that should say should the church speak to the world.*

  31. Bonnie Avatar
    Bonnie

    Here is further food for thought regarding acts of war.
    https://incommunion.org/2011/03/31/orthodox-perspectives-on-peace-war-and-violence/

  32. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Laurie,
    I generally have no comments to make about politics – other than to observe that it’s pretty corrupt and rarely self-describes accurately. Public moral discussions of issues (on the internet/social media) are pretty much useless exercises in the passions. Most people are not capable of having such discussions without being overwhelmed by the passions. Why should I tempt them?

    I am a priest of the OCA. The Church has clear positions on the matters you mentioned and I support the Holy Synod on all of them. You can look them up on the OCA’s website. But it is simply not the conversation that interests me in this venue. I have a different ministry that I have accepted and for which I’ve been blessed.

    When my blog was on Ancient Faith (which it no longer is), writers were specifically asked to refrain from political conversations or discussions of the war in Ukraine. I will say that, like many modern moral issues, there are layers of complexity that make it difficult to properly discuss or take a “one-size-fits-all” position.

    In matters such as these, I will, no doubt, disappoint many. I find it rather striking how little Christ had to say about the politics of Rome or Israel. I will also say that the corners of Orthodoxy (there are a number) where there is a lot of political speech leave me empty, often feeling sick. I do not find them to be “filled with the Spirit” nor to be making peace, regardless of their positions. In all honesty, I think that politics is haunted and dominated by demonic powers. I like to stay away from it.

    “Acquire the Spirit of peace and thousands around you will be saved.” St. Seraphim of Sarov

  33. Mark Spurlock Avatar
    Mark Spurlock

    Laurie,

    As someone who spent a substantial (and wasted) portion of his youth debating politics online, I very much appreciate Father Stephen’s position for this blog. If anyone seeks that debate, it’s easy enough to find.

    “Politics is part of the world we live in.” Hmm. So is celebrity. So are sports. I say this only because I do not see that the stated premise implies that the Church should express positions on who wins the Academy Awards or the NCAA tournament.

    For the specifics you list…”Slavery, inequality, war, the death penalty, abortion”…I think Christianity does have positions–as does Father Stephen. If, for example, you read the 10 points he lists above, you can likely guess what his positions are for each. And looking at point 8, one can infer how and where he would put his positions into practice.

    In Orthodoxy, the Church is often equated to a hospital. If you were being treated at a hospital for a medical condition, would you think it necessary that the hospital post a notice with its political positions in each patient’s room? Do you believe the hospital should not treat those with whom it disagrees politically?

    Some, indeed, might answer yes to both of those questions, but I believe that denotes them more as ideologues than followers of Christ.

  34. Laurie Marvin Avatar
    Laurie Marvin

    I largely agree with Fr Stephen. Arguing about politics often ends badly, and doesn’t change peoples minds. The temptations are many.

    But I can’t help feel that power is like money- that is, someone is going to wield it and it would be better if more or less decent people did. I do appreciate that here, unlike in some parts of the world, one still enjoys freedoms here that are not present elsewhere. People had to fight for those. I can’t see a way in this fallen world where good naturally triumphs without struggle. Politics, however imperfect, is sometimes that fight.

  35. Mark Spurlock Avatar
    Mark Spurlock

    Laurie,

    “I can’t help feel that power is like money- that is, someone is going to wield it and it would be better if more or less decent people did. ”

    This is Boromir’s mistake in Lord of the Rings, but if you prefer a more scriptural reference, please see Luke 4:5-8. Indeed, power is like money in that both are temptations.

  36. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Laurie,
    You said:

    But I can’t help feel that power is like money- that is, someone is going to wield it and it would be better if more or less decent people did. I do appreciate that here, unlike in some parts of the world, one still enjoys freedoms here that are not present elsewhere. People had to fight for those. I can’t see a way in this fallen world where good naturally triumphs without struggle. Politics, however imperfect, is sometimes that fight.

    I very much agree that power is like money. I would note that the “decent” people have very little of either. I disagree, however, with your thoughts on how good triumphs. I think that it is patently clear that the good works as a mystery in this world, particularly on the larger stage. It works very much as Joseph of Egypt said to his brothers: “You meant it to me for evil, but the Lord meant it to me for good.” Goodness is an attribute of God, it is His Divine Energies in the world. It sustains everything, despite the workings of evil people (or our own incompetence).

    It is simply the case that, at the very least, we lack sufficient information to actually know what’s going on, much less the thoughts and motivations of the hearts of those involved in the actions about which we read. I do not think there are any reliable (truly reliable) news sources. There are competing narratives, themselves, at best, a mixed bag of motives (including a desire for money and power).

    The theory of how politics works is a story we tell ourselves. It sounds good, even like it should work. But I believe it to be quite partial and largely untrue.

    I noted that Christ said almost nothing about Rome or Israel. It would have been a waste of breath. We, however, talk about these larger things as if we somehow had our hands on the levers of power. We do not. We have endured woefully incompetent rogues (and worse) lined up by each political party for years, imagining that voting for one or the other would turn the tide of history.

    The outcome of history is in the hands of God. The outcome can be seen in the death and resurrection of Christ. Christ gaves us commandments that are always right at hand that we might act and do the next good thing. I do vote, but I have no expectations attached to that vote. I know that the outcome of everything – including the next few minutes – is in the hands of God.

    Forgive me, but some of what you’re saying reminds me of Hobbes – who taught that everything is a struggle. He was also an atheist. I cannot find anywhere in the Fathers or in the faith where such a theory of history is taught. Good triumphs just like Pascha (and is always a Pascha when it does). We should do the next good thing, following the commandments of Christ. Voting is permitted, but we are commanded to pray. In the End, it all works out. In the meantime, we have been promised suffering. There should be no surprise about that. However, as we pray and give ourselves to God, we work at relieving the suffering of others around us.

    It remains true: Acquire the Spirit of peace and thousands around you will be saved.

    I understand that I am suggesting a rejection of the modern narrative that desperately believes in political action. I think that by cherry-picking history, people can support that narrative. However, it becomes just one more lie of the many we tell ourselves.

    Stanley Hauerwas, a prominent Protestant theologian, once said: “The project of modernity was to produce people who believe they should have no story except the story they choose when they had no story. Such a story is called a story of freedom – institutionalized economically as capitalism and politically as democracy. That story, and the institutions that embody it, is the enemy we must attack through Christian preaching.”

    It’s worth chewing on. I believe he pretty much got it right. It also suggests that Christian preaching is a dangerous thing. I have pondered his thoughts for over 3 decades now and found him to be quite insightful. I studied under him for several years. I have to admit that for the first three years I argued with him pretty vociferously. Inadvertently, he played an important role in my conversion to Orthodoxy. I say “inadvertently” because he had no intention of doing any such thing. But “the Lord meant it to me for good.”

    Such is life.

    Today, my household goods are being loaded on a truck and moved to S.C. and I am following. My access to my computer (and free time) will be quite spotty. But I pray that this note is at least worth chewing on, even if it’s not the last word.

    God is working us good – always and everywhere. Glory to Him for all things!

  37. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    I wish you and yours a very safe trip Fr. Stephen. SC awaits!

    I think it is helpful to remember that Jesus did not live and minister in a liberal, western democracy. If Jesus did, I suppose he might have had something to say about how much political action and governmental participation is allowable and healthy.

    I thank you Laurie and Mark for your thoughts as well. I really love what Fr. Stephen has to say about the violence of modernity as well as the political process overall. That said, I struggle with his thinking too. Generally speaking, I think politics is a very dirty business that is infected with the demonic, but, in my heart I know some parties are less dirty and less infected than others. At least for now, I still have a vote and I can use that vote to help try to mitigate serious electoral damage.

    I live in a country that is still haunted (IMO) by the horrors of past political decisions. Living in this reality, it is hard for me to think all parties and platforms are equally dirty and demonic. There is certainly the lesser of evils to consider. It is the lesser of these evils which Christians must deal with, politically speaking, even as they try their best to follow the commands of Jesus Christ.

    This is not an easy balancing act. I think about this topic a lot!!

  38. Salaam Avatar
    Salaam

    It’s a nice list, Father, but I’m still stuck on 1)!

  39. Laurie Marvin Avatar
    Laurie Marvin

    I respect Fr. Stephen so I will only make one more comment. Politics seems to run the gamut- from the Civil Rights Movement, to figures like William Wilberforce, to Nelson Mandela, etc. I am wondering if those figures are seen as good? Doesn’t there have to be some way or organizing society? I think Stanley Hauwerwas liked Watership Down- and he liked the political structure of the rabbits. I thought he was more against empire politics.

  40. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    We should organise our society like the Shire. We should live like the Hobbits.

  41. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Laurie, Matthew, et al
    I think that the critique I offer (over and over) regarding modernity (which is a philosophy, not a period of time) is, indeed, both hard to grasp, and difficult to accept. I personally believe that this is largely on account of the fact that most of us are enthralled with modernity’s narrative. It’s our culture – it’s the water in which we swim.

    What I believe to be the case is that Christians fail to “think outside the box.” Matthew referenced a period of time when the Church was in the middle of running things (the Middle Ages in the West). Frankly, modernity is still the same game, only now the Church has been relegated to something like the status of a hobby. But, just as during the terrible mistakes of the Middle Ages, Christians persist in believing that they are themselves in charge of the outcome of history. The theological thought experiment would be this: What if we are not in charge of the outcome of history? What if God’s providence is the true nature of history? What is our proper role in that and how should we live?

    Modernity wants us to believe that we are the managers of this world. It leads us to a host of sins that we fail to acknowledge. It makes us sick.

    As to Wilberforce and such good men. Indeed, God raises up good people throughout history. God raises them up – not us. How on earth did Joseph get from being a slave in prison to the man in charge of Egypt? Do we dare contemplate such stories being given to us so that we might have a clue as to “how things really work?”

    The thing is this: How do I go about keeping God’s commandments, living at peace with all, so that I can be a good person whom God might raise up should He so choose?

    Do the next good thing. Think outside of modernity’s narrative and the myth that we are the managers of history. We are not.

    The moving truck just pulled up. See ya’ later!

  42. Mallory Avatar
    Mallory

    Thank you, Father Stephen, what a rich discussion, I am so grateful to have found someone who can speak to this. I try to speak to it but sound unserious when I do–especially to those well-intentioned people in my life who have an intense addiction to the news cycle, which I have come to believe is largely fake, distorted and a pre-planned manipulation of the masses.

    Of course I have no proof of this, but I believe “politics” is one big club (as George Carlin succinctly put it) and characters are put on the world stage, some playing villains, some playing heroes, but it is all a distraction, and, yes, it is largely demonic. The goal is to distract people with one emergency after another, hopefully make them hate their neighbors, and keep them passionately involved in something they have no control over–make them believe that there really is a lesser of two evils, and that they can manage the world by being on the “right” team, with the “right” bumper sticker or lawn sign.

    In my view, Jesus in the Scriptures makes it clear what to pay attention to “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s” and of course in the Commandments, as Father Stephen has mentioned. The illusion of the news being in any way true dissolved completely for me after the pandemic narratives, too many evil, illogical threads to count, and this is the issue that brought me to Christ. I looked around at the “good liberal” people around me wanting to put the unvaccinated in camps–really, this happened, I hope people don’t forget so easily–and I thought, “Ok, the world is over for me. I need to read the Bible.”

    In any case, thank you Father Stephen for this discussion, you have created a holy place on the internet, and I’m grateful!

  43. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    Read the letters of Tolkien. Also Chesterton. Belloc. These are very interesting Catholic thinkers worth thinking with.

  44. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Mallory,
    Thank you for your encouragement. Frankly, if the narrative of modernity (together with its political promises, etc.) are true, then we have no hope. If, however, the traditional Christian narrative regarding the providence of God is true (and this is the Orthodox witness without contradiction), then we have a well-founded hope of which Christ’s Pascha is both the guarantee and living hope. We have seen the End of all things: we won!

    This is the faith that has sustained the faithful through centuries of oppression and persecution. Today, we think as we do largely as a testimony to being educated middle class people. I have also lived among the poor – they know better.

    Back in 2020, there were a group of mountain men (Appalachians) building a chimney for me in my house. One of them, 65 years old, asked me what I thought about the upcoming election. He then said, “Well, I ain’t ever voted, but if I was a gonna, I’d vote for……” and told me his candidate. He had never voted. It’s clear that he didn’t think it made a difference…but…good American that he was, he had an opinion.

    Oh the stories I could tell…rich and poor.

  45. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    I believe God ultimately wins!

    That said, until that time comes, how should we live as human beings? Even if everybody lived the commands of Christ, some sort of societal structure would still evolve. That structure would need to be managed. Didn’t the Shire have a mayor? 😁

  46. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    There is a Catholic principle called “subsidiarity.” It says that you should keep decisions and power, etc., as close to home as possible. Of course, there’s a mayor. There’s a family, etc. Modernity doesn’t like subsidiarity. The further away you put the power from anything, the less control anyone local has, and, thus, you have less difficulty with them pushing back. It’s why there’s less and less accountability in the modern world. A one world government would be impossible. As it is, you have to check in with Brussels to make a decision in Germany, etc.

    So, local, subsidiarity, accountability – do the next good thing – hopefully that is close at hand.

    This is not an ideology. It’s just about living in a human manner.

  47. hélène d. Avatar
    hélène d.

    Thank you, Father Stephen, for this post and all the thoughts that abound concerning our way of life in this “modern world.” I sincerely tell you that it is a joy for me to read you because I deeply agree with your vision of things (this is nothing new !) and it does me a lot of good and inner reassurance, because I would not be able to express all this so clearly (moreover, I don’t know English and the translations are approximate!) And how important is what you are doing here! I thank God for that !
    It can be difficult for some people to place the relationship with Christ, to draw close to Him and live in truth from His Life, exclusively, before all else, so that everything we are given to experience is inspired, irrigated, by this relationship, communion with the Lord. For our old self always claims its desires and its ways of acting and its visions of the world. These are very strong impulses, instincts, but when, in the light of Faith, a reversal of perspective occurs, then everything is in a different place, and our view of the world and history shows us, stimulates us toward a completely different way of being (your concise list is inspiring…). But it is a struggle, a real struggle… and one that increases spiritual strength tenfold if we remain faithful to it…
    and we can deeply feel that our being, our life, becomes more and more “adjusted” to the Gospel of the Lord….

    St. John Climacus describes the struggle, the spiritual mourning, saying that it is like a “golden nail” that is fixed and pierces the human heart, and then man, the human heart, becomes like a submarine into which not a drop of water can penetrate, even though this submarine is surrounded by incredible pressure, tons of water, storms, adversity, enemies. ferocious…
    I don’t remember who said that we should sometimes have childlike impulses, instincts, that is to say, instead of climbing onto a barrier and trying with all our might to cross it and get to the other side, we should instead slide to the ground and crawl to get underneath…

  48. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Fr. Stephen.

  49. David Pitchford Avatar
    David Pitchford

    “We, however, talk about these larger things as if we somehow had our hands on the levers of power. We do not.”

    This resonated with me. For all the ways in which democracy is a blessing, you have aptly described one of its dangers, namely the temptation for it to lead people to think and act like “little presidents” in much the same way that sola scriptura can lead people to act like “little popes”. Yet I think voting is important in a democratic society, and some participation in politics (especially local politics) can be a way of loving our neighbor…it’s a difficult balance to make, and one I am very much looking for guidance on. Your closing points seem very apt for Christians living in the world.

    Do you have any other advice on how to avoid fear, anxiety, or anger arising from events in the political sphere over which most of us have virtually no control, but can have big consequences for our lives? For example, my sister is engaged to a Beninese man she met while working for a nonprofit and his immigration process, already stressful and difficult at best, is even more fraught under the current American administration, not to mention the risks he’ll face as an immigrant even if he gets the visa. I have been immensely privileged to not have this worry for most of my life, but there are plenty of saints who have experience living under oppression.

    Lastly, how do you understand the Church’s role of speaking truth and proclaiming Christ’s kingdom to worldly powers? Orthodox churches in America seem to mostly stay well clear of politics, which I largely appreciate, but I think it can lead to the false impression that the Orthodox faith is compatible with, or even supportive of, modern ideologies that are really quite anti-Christian, as well as appearing silent and passive in the face of evil. But then again, the Lord was silent before his accusers… I am still trying to think through these things and I appreciate your insights.

  50. Nathan Fischer Avatar
    Nathan Fischer

    I love this article, Father, and this discussion. I hope you have a safe journey to SC. I have a few thoughts that may be helpful (if not, please feel free to simply ignore them).

    One of the problems with trying to wrestle with the notion of modernity is our tendency to want to analyze everything about it before deciding whether we want to accept what’s being said or not. Just like our tendency to want to manage the world, or for the “right people” to be in charge, we tend to want to figure modernity out (if modernity is even a thing at all, which we may be skeptical of) before we decide to take the kind of advice Father gave in his article.

    For me, this didn’t work. The more I tried (years ago) to figure things out, the more I found myself oscillating between various political movements and news outlets and pundits and so on.

    It was only after getting into a very serious argument with a close family member and saying some things I deeply regretted that I realized I had to take a break and clear my head. I tried focusing on “the next good thing” for a while. I cut off the news. I started praying for (all) our leaders. And while things didn’t immediately change overnight, they did change surprisingly quickly for me – within a few months. Within a year or so, the world looked radically different than the year before, and I felt like the fog had somewhat been lifted.

    It took abandoning the things modernity tells me is most important before I could see that they weren’t actually very important at all. Despite being a reader of this blog, I spent many years rejecting Father’s advice on this, convinced we needed the right leaders, the right movements, the right parties, to know all the things our world says we need to know, etc. I could not accept that these things were not important.

    I’m still a modern person living in the modern world. My inclination is still to turn and look at the world from the lens modernity says is important. But the fact that I even see the narrative now, which I didn’t see before, is enough sometimes to remind me that it *is* a narrative and it’s not the narrative that matters.

    Nobody has to agree with Father on what he has to say about this stuff. But if you’re curious whether he’s right or not, you could just decide to take his advice for a little while – a few months maybe. Maybe a year, if you’re up for it. You’re not in charge. Nothing you’re concerned with knowing about is going anywhere. You can always come back to it, if you really want to.

    But maybe, if you try following his advice for just a little bit, you might see things a little differently. Then you can test the narratives you see after that. Do they look the same as they did before? The didn’t for me.

    I think part of the problem is that modernity teaches us that we all learned a bunch of information about the world, and this informed us as to what was important and what wasn’t. And when we read Father’s blog, we think we’re reading alternate information, and we’re trying to test it against what we already know. We want to weigh the alternative in the same way we’d weigh a political platform.

    In reality, what really happened is that modernity taught us to live a particular way all our lives, while simultaneously telling us that it was doing the opposite. It’s a leap of faith to begin trying to live differently and trusting that in doing so, maybe we’ll begin to see the world a little differently, too.

    The news isn’t the acquiring of information. It’s an action that we’re taking, much like going to church and hearing the Gospel. The political cycle isn’t all about getting the right people into office versus the wrong people – it’s actually a “liturgical” cycle that we’re participating in, that keeps us focused on the that which it wants us focused on. The belief in progress and our attempts to enacting progress in the world is a replacement for a life dedicated to repentance (for the Kingdom of God is already here). The desire and attempt to manage the world is an attempt to establish a sort of man-made providence over and against the providence of God. And all of these things induce a fear and an anxiety that keeps us hooked and coming back for more, over and against the peace of God that can drive out such anxieties and fill us with contentment.

    We have this stuff drilled into us every moment of every day of our lives. It shapes not only what we believe and how we see, but especially how we act and the works we do. The suggestion to do different things and to live differently than what modernity tells us to do isn’t, I don’t think, the suggestion to immediately believe everything that’s being said. It’s an offer to test the waters and see if what’s being said is actually true.

    I found it to be true, and I’m very grateful for that. I also didn’t believe Father before testing the waters for myself. Now, I can’t imagine going back (well, sometimes I can, but that’s just my passions).

    We are willing to try so many things, to attempt adjusting our behaviors in so many ways, to try different medicines and therapies and even change churches or denominations. We waffle between news outlets and political parties. We are willing to do very nearly anything at all that we think might make our lives better in some way… *except* living a life that is directly contrary to what the world around us tells us is important. And for myself, I never thought to question why that was.

    I don’t think it will hurt anybody to test the waters for a little while, just to see what happens. And if you’re filled with resistance or anxiety over the thought of doing so, it may be worth considering why that is. The most important things in my life now bring me peace and contentment, not anxiety. I’m not even anxious about losing them.

    For what it’s worth…

  51. Byron Avatar
    Byron

    Matthew, forgive me for overlooking your question:

    Byron, would it be fair to say that because the eastern Church was under so much persecution it didn´t have the ability to “run things” the way the Church ran things in the west? If we say yes that this is fair to say, then I´m wondering if such persecution in the east had not taken place would the eastern Church have taken the worldly bait the way the Church in the west did?

    While I don’t think the Eastern Church is capable of “running things” in the same way as the Western Church (the organization just isn’t there), I do think it is fair to say that the people in the East can be as tempted to power as anyone else. So, yes, it is very possible and I’m sure some have tried in various ways to do so. I believe Father has stated in the past that persecution purifies the Church–in this, Orthodoxy has at times been very fortunate!

    The conversation here has been excellent, I think! I would like to comment on one thing:

    There is certainly the lesser of evils to consider.

    I think a large part of our problem is that we insist on considering such a thing! When I learned to ride a motorcycle, I was told that “where your eyes look, that’s where you will steer.” I learned that this is a very true statement–if I stared at a pothole in the street, I inevitably hit it! It is not the evils of the world we should be focused upon, but the goodness of God.

  52. David P Avatar
    David P

    Thank you for these wise words, father. Modernity really is the water we swim in in the west, and we can often be blind to how it subverts and opposes the gospel in our hearts and lives. The liturgy, the fathers, and the Tradition of our church all witness against the misconceptions of modernity, but for laypeople like myself having contemporary voices like you is a great help to understanding what they have to say to our times. Giving up control, or even perceived control, is scary. There is so much pressure in our culture to fight, if not for your rights, then for the rights of others, which somehow still feels pretty convincing to me.

    I really liked this quote:

    “We, however, talk about these larger things as if we somehow had our hands on the levers of power. We do not.”

    This comment really resonates with me. Democracy means government by the people and for the people, but we can twist this into thinking “government for me and by me” and get to acting like “little presidents”, feeling that we should be the ones in the captain’s chair, getting angry when things aren’t as we would wish them. Why are our political passions, which can be quite severe, so out of proportion with the amount of control we actually have over the world outside our local sphere of influence?

    Also, do you have anything to offer about what you see as the Church’s role in speaking truth to the powers, to the modern world? Orthodox churches in America mostly stay well clear of politics, which I largely appreciate. But I think it can allow misconceptions to develop that the Orthodox faith is compatible with thoroughly modern ideologies that are actually contrary to it, and it can look like silence in the face of evil. (But then, Jesus was silent before His captors and accusers…) It could be that my concern here is simply coming from my still-modern viewpoint, but is there any line of continuity from past bishops and patriarchs who called kings and emperors to repent (successfully or unsuccessfully) and the modern Church?

  53. Alan Avatar
    Alan

    “I understand that I am suggesting a rejection of the modern narrative that desperately believes in political action.”

    As a reader of your blog for many, many years, every time I read the above line from you Father, it’s like a great salve to the soul.
    I must say, it’s always a bit frustrating to see so much pushback to this great wisdom you are espousing. Please keep banging this drum Father. People need to be taught the total myth of modernity and sadly, you are one of the very few presenting this message we all need to hear.

  54. Alan Avatar
    Alan

    Apologies for the second comment.

    I’ll never forget a great comment made on this site by one of the longest tenured commenters here (Dino). He stated “…for the Orthodox, we’re hesychasts, not activists.”

  55. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Byron.

  56. hélène d. Avatar
    hélène d.

    Thank you Alan for your words, which I appreciate very much, and also for recalling Dino’s words, which I also remember… I would very much appreciate him being here again, enriching these exchanges with his unique and relevant thoughts….

  57. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    David P,
    The most important thing the Church can “say” to the powers comes through “being the Church.” The problem today is that the Church, too often, wants to act like a little state with a “moral” position. We act like people with opinions. Why should the powers even bother to listen? (And they don’t except when we are saying something they can use to wrap themselves in a pretend position of morality).

    Throughout the centuries, the Church has been most truly itself when its obedience to the gospel takes precedence over everything. When we are generous beyond measure. When we forgive our enemies. When we lay down our lives for others. When we are those of whom it is said, “See how they love one another.”

    I believe that in Christ Jesus, as revealed in His life, death, and resurrection, the Kingdom of God has come. Because this is true, I can and should keep the commandments. Our lives should point (like a compass to true North) to the Kingdom of God.

    The witness of monastics through the ages has been that they point to the Kingdom.

    Modernity believes that there is no God, or that He has left the world up to us to just do our best in. This is all heresy and delusion.

    I deeply appreciated the words I quoted earlier that Christian preaching (and living) should “attack” the myth of the absent God, of a non sacramental world, of the false institutions that embody such notions. Live as a sign of the kingdom and a contradiction to the world. That “attack” is a spiritual warfare – for we wrestle with principalities and powers, not with human beings. Every time any of us rightly keeps a commandment of Christ, the demons tremble. Scripture says, “Overcome evil by doing good.” That goodness is the goodness of the Kingdom, not the faux goodness of the world (which works by coercion).

    Pray.

  58. Alan Avatar
    Alan

    Nathan, thank you very much for sharing your personal story. It’s very helpful.

    Re-reading this great article a second time through this morning, I remembered a story that is relevant to this topic. Back in Nov of 2020, about two weeks after the US Presidential election, a group of men from my parish took a weekend trip to a small Orthodox Monastery. After spending a few days there, as they were packing up to leave, the Abbot (A truly wonderful, joyful man) asked them: “Oh, by the way, who won the election?” The men in the group started laughing, until they realized the Abbot was totally serious. Upon being told who won, the Abbot then asked: “Who did he end up picking as his running mate?” His tone and countenance were the same as when he asked the guys: “How was your drive over?”
    Truly glorious.

  59. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    I really appreciate your response to David P., Fr. Stephen. It deeply resonates with me. Thank you.

    That said, I would like to take a few steps back (yet again :-)) and offer up a small case study:

    My brother-in-law owns his own e-vehicles design and manufacturing company. He is absolutely dedicated to changing the world in this arena. Today on his status update he posted an aerial map of Paris showing how the pollution in the city has been significantly reduced since 2007. I think this is in large part because of Parisan laws forbidding gasoline vehicles in the city. He is advocating for similar laws in other cities to be enacted. He sees all this as not only necessary but also extremely positive.

    After I looked at the status update, I thought to myself … well … this certainly looks and sounds very good. Some good news for a change! That said, I couldn´t help but also be drawn to what we have been discussing here. Is this really good news? What are the unintended/negative consequences of the Paris ecological solution? Is my brother-in-law (who is completely secular and modern) wasting his time trying to “change the ecological world”, or is this an example of him simply acting locally and subsidiarily in a positive way … or … or … or.

  60. Mark Spurlock Avatar
    Mark Spurlock

    Matthew,

    Since the subject is cars, I would say that’s an example of “staying in one’s lane.” Does the Church have any special insight into the “unintended consequences” of this particular solution? Note that forbidding gasoline vehicles does not objectively intend that Parisians instead buy e-vehicles. To the best of my knowledge, Paris has a fine public transportation system, which would not involve all the consumption and waste that manufacturing any private vehicle entails.

    Father Stephen’s principle seven addresses the same problem, but in a way that individual action and knowledge can contribute. Should I buy a new EV? Do I really need a personal car at all?

    My engineer son says that when a metric becomes a goal it ceases to be a metric (perhaps a corollary to Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle). In this case, if the goal is to reduce a particular pollutant, yes, a law forbidding one of its main sources will likely reduce the pollutant. That is orthogonal to selling and buying an EV.

    Are we being persuaded into superfluous consumption by appealing to a desire to be virtuous? (Sometimes it’s pretty transparent: I just saw an ad for sneakers that said, “Honor God With Every Step.”)

    In one’s own business, principle eight implies, yes, how you act matters. Tolstoy was always trying to figure out how to be an ethical landowner and do “right” by his serfs, and even a genius like him with its being his daily life struggled with the implementation for years. As I read Matthew 7:3-4, judging from afar whether others are wasting their time or achieving good in their efforts is misdirected. How well am I plowing my own furrow?

  61. Byron Avatar
    Byron

    Part of our delusion is from trying to break everything down and “weigh” the good vs. bad (however we measure those). Dissecting and naming something provides the illusion of our having control over it. If we cannot control the actual thing, we try to control the perception of it. Our desire to control is really what we should step away from, I believe.

    I think it may be simpler to just say (sincerely) something like, “I’m happy for you” and focus our attention on “plowing my own furrow”, as Mark said. Our focus on something empowers its hold in our hearts.

  62. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    How well am I plowing my own furrow?

    This is a great question to ponder.

    Thanks so much Mark and Byron.

  63. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    You can say of the situation with your brother-in-law that he is well-intentioned. He has a good heart. Who knows if it is actually doing any good? I’ve seen some articles that suggest that electric cars are a wash or worse for the environment. I do not trust the “crises” advertised by our governments. Everything these days is described as an “existential crisis” when it clearly is not that.

    The world is full of Puritans (only the religion is new). Puritanism seeks a “moral” salvation. It can feel quite satisfying. It doesn’t last. I’m waiting for the planet managers to explain to us how the planet needs fewer people and so there will be programs to reduce our numbers. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. You can tell his actions within modernity when the suggestions lead to murder (calling it something else).

  64. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Alan,
    I’d love to recommend the writings of Paul Kingsnorth. He’s an English writer (Orthodox) who is quite interesting on the issue of modernity.

  65. Salaam Avatar
    Salaam

    I second Paul Kingsnorth. Very much in the same vein as your writings, Father Stephen, except he comes at it from a slightly different angle, being a former English and a former Environmentalist.

    I am Ethiopian and Canadian, have closely followed various politics from a young age, a legacy of my father, and I have absolutely no doubt that Dostoevsky’s “…line between good and evil” (which I first read on this blog) is an Orthodox truism. I have political opinions, but I try to make sure I always remember that they’re absolutely worthless!

  66. Salaam Avatar
    Salaam

    Solzhenitsyn, not Dostoevsky…

  67. Dana Ames Avatar
    Dana Ames

    Kingsnorth’s book is schedule to be published in September and can be pre-ordered from outlets listed at the publisher’s web site:

    https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/756181/against-the-machine-by-paul-kingsnorth/

    —————-

    May it be a good and blessed homecoming for you, Fr Stephen.

    Dana

  68. Jeannette R Avatar
    Jeannette R

    Dear Fr. Stephen,
    I heard, saw, this as the crux, what to take to heart in this recent sharing of yours:
    “…how to live rightly in the world”…rather than ” how to make the world itself live rightly.”

    I also appreciate the caring and thoughtful comments of your many readers.

    Safe journey to SC. As “moving” tends to lighten our loads, may you find joy in your move…lightly and rightly do rhyme…

  69. Alan Avatar
    Alan

    Salaam, thank you for your thoughts. It doesn’t matter what I think, but I happen to totally agree.

    Father Stephen, Salaam, and Dana, thank you for mentioning Paul K. I have just recently started reading some of his writings. Very good stuff. Thank you as well Dana for mentioning the book!

  70. Joanie Miller Avatar
    Joanie Miller

    On your list of what to do and not do , number 2 comes to mind. I believe we need to set a good example for our children and teach them how to be like Jesus. They dont always say Im sorry or share . They can be hard headed lol. Thanks for your reflections. I am encouraged greatly.

  71. Marleigh Avatar
    Marleigh

    Thanks, all, for the lively comments. It is heartening to see this discussed, since it is an extremely unpopular opinion (even within the church).

    Matthew—The shell game of capitalism is to hide the costs until it becomes unavoidable. The cost of combustion engines was hidden for a century, and now the cost of heavy metals mining (which is already poisoning women and children in Africa), slave labor, long-distance shipping, and other costs are being hidden behind the “lowered pollution” or other metrics that represent our current definition of “the good.” Modernity always moves the goal post, however. I would recommend you read Wendell Berry’s “The Unsettling of America” and E.F. Schumacher’s “Small is Beautiful” for two really excellent analyses of why politics and specialists and systems cannot help us. (And yes, farmers are constantly doing violence to the land, and it does not make them bad people. They are, often as not, trapped in the same zero-sum game as the rest of us, and violence is the only way to feed their children.)

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