Things I Learned in a Mirror

In my morning mirror, my father’s face stares back at me. As a child, people would say, “You look like your father.” I couldn’t see it, except that my ears were shaped like his. I had no idea that the ears whispered my destiny.

The notion that there is something within us that sets the pattern of our life, and particularly its end, is nothing new. In Orthodoxy, we describe this as the “telos,” (Greek:End). Everything in existence has a purpose, an end for which it was created and for which it exists. It is not possible to know or understand anything without some sense of its end. In medieval scholastic theology, this is described as the “final cause,” something working within us (causing), moving us towards a particular purpose and end. Modernity rejected this notion. Hans Boersma, a conservative Anglican theologian, writes:

Modernity has been loath to accept the idea that the telos of a thing is inherent in its nature. Francis Bacon, in his Novum Organum (1620), was particularly disdainful of final causality. In defense of experimental science, he insisted that we ought to begin with the objects as we have them in front of us and as we access them with the senses. He rejected out of hand, therefore, the notion that ends belong to the nature of things. Boersma, Hans. Seeing God: The Beatific Vision in Christian Tradition (p. 20).

There is a natural pattern of the telos in our genetic reality. DNA is an example of a natural telos, a patterning within us that moves us towards a particular end. A human being, from the moment of its conception, has within it the shape and biological direction of its future. Environment will have its effects, and our choices will set certain directions, but our choices cannot make us other than what our genetic telos has set in motion. We may fight it, deny it, attempt to rewrite our narrative, but there remains a “givenness” to our existence.

This, of course, is simply the “natural” example of the telos. Spiritually, it mirrors the Church’s understanding of a deeper, far more profound telos. The Scripture refers to Christ as the Second Adam, the Alpha and Omega. In Christ, we have revealed before us the telos for which we are created. Indeed, the universe itself, in this understanding, has a Christ shape. We may say (as I often have) that Christ’s Pascha is written in the heart of all things. It reveals the purpose of all things.

When St. Paul says of himself, “I am crucified with Christ” (Gal. 2:20), he is not referring just to the difficult circumstances of his life. He is describing a pattern which is revealed in each of us. We (each of us) have a cruciform telos, it is written in our spiritual DNA.  St. John describes Christ as the Logos of God, noting that all things “were made through Him.” To even postulate that there is a Logos is to assert that there is a pattern to all things of which He is the telos. There is a meaning in all things that is Christ-shaped. The practice of natural contemplation (theoria physike) that is recommended in the Fathers, is the continual search for the pattern of Christ in all things.

Of course, our lives are also shaped by circumstances and decisions. Frequently, what we describe as our “life” is the narrative created by those circumstances. Such considerations bolster the notion that we ourselves are the captains of our own ship. “My life is mine” – we imagine. This conforms well to the myths of modernity. In a world dependent on extreme consumerism, it is important to nurture a sense that every purchase, every choice, every decision, is shaping our happiness and creating our destiny. A spiritual discipline that perceives our life to be a gift – a gift shaped by a God-given telos – is bad for sales. People might become too comfortable with what they already have.

The Christian life is often described as a transformation into the image of Christ.

But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord. (2Cor. 3:18)

This is not a transformation into what we are not. Rather, it is a transformation into what we have always been intended to be. We are being transformed into the image according to which we were created. It is the image of the Lamb Slain before the foundation of the world. We, and the world around us, has been, is now, and always shall be cruciform in accordance with the Logos through Whom it was made. Occasionally, we see glimpses of that glory in a mirror.

About Fr. Stephen Freeman

Fr. Stephen is a retired Archpriest of the Orthodox Church in America. He is also author of Everywhere Present: Christianity in a One-Storey Universe, and Face to Face: Knowing God Beyond Our Shame, as well as the Glory to God podcast series on Ancient Faith Radio.



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131 responses to “Things I Learned in a Mirror”

  1. John Mark Lamb Avatar
    John Mark Lamb

    Fr. Stephen, I like this statement, “There is a natural pattern of the telos in our genetic reality. DNA is an example of a natural telos, a patterning within us that moves us towards a particular end.” This feels different than simply “determinism” which doesn’t seem to offer any relational participation in our destiny. Would you say that every human being already has Christ within them (Christ in you, the hope of glory) but they are not yet participating in it until faith awakens them from their slumber?

  2. Jay Kidney Avatar
    Jay Kidney

    Shakespeare also says it well: “There’e a divinity which shapes our ends, rough-hew them how we will”.

  3. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    John Mark,
    Yes – I think that is well put.

  4. Dino Avatar
    Dino

    If only we could sustain the gratefull awareness that, despite circumstances, we have already been blessed more than we can imagine – rather than insatiably seeking more and more in underlying disatisfaction – we would have a little foretaste of Paradise

  5. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    A beautiful “reflection”. Glory to God for All Things.

  6. Jeff Avatar
    Jeff

    Are we to understand that taking on the prescriptions of the Church (prayer, fasting, almsgiving) is taking on a cruciform life (in part), and that in this way we participate in and/or contribute to our return to the Image?

  7. Dallas Wolf Avatar

    The Logos in me jumps in greeting the Logos in you.

  8. Bill Gall Avatar

    . . . . “We, and the world around us, has been, is now, and always shall be cruciform in accordance with the Logos through Whom it was made. . . .

    All? On behalf of all, and for all? Is this the larger hope, or something more?

  9. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Bill,
    Certainly the larger hope…It is the mystery spoken of in Eph. 1:10

    …that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth—in Him.

  10. Simon Avatar
    Simon

    There’s another Simon.

  11. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Simon (the old),
    Are you starting a movement?

  12. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Jeff,
    Yes, indeed.

  13. Peggy Fanning Avatar

    Thank you for sharing these profound, challenging and true words.
    However,
    this demands stripping oneself of selfishness and sin. We must Follow the Lamb!

  14. Simon the Old Avatar
    Simon the Old

    Now that you mention it…😆

  15. Old Simon Avatar
    Old Simon

    The last several discussions have truly strengthened my spirit. I needed it. Thank you.

  16. helene d. Avatar
    helene d.

    Thanks Dino for these words !

  17. Mallory Avatar
    Mallory

    Thank you, this is illuminating! I think this is why there are many plans to alter our DNA and a not-so-future technological dream to merge with machine. May God protect us from these plans.

  18. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Mallory,
    Thank you. May the Lord frustrate all such plans!

  19. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    These kinds of articles and discussions always bring me back to similar questions:

    How free am I really? How much of my life is determined? 50/50, 60/40, 70/30???

  20. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    We are free enough – free enough such that our choices are significant. But we are also contingent – contingent enough to place saving limits on our freedom. Death (Gen. 6:3) is one of those contingencies. We do not simply become worse and worse (if we were headed in that direction). Death sets a limit. There are other limits and boundaries. Our ignorance, the limits on our power, etc. “Liberty,” which became the watchword of the Reformation, too often lacked a reasonable balance – which is probably why our political/civic life swings like a pendulum. Also this underscores the inherent dangers in certain technologies.

    How free are you – free enough. How limited – limited enough. Make do with what you have and give thanks for all things (including the things you don’t have).

  21. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Fr. Stephen.

    I don´t think most of us really understand just how “un-free” we really are. Rush released a song in 1980 (I think) called “Freewill”. While I don´t claim to understand everything the song was intending to convey, it seems Rush made free will its god. I did the same for many, many years.

    I´m not saying we´re all merely puppets on a string, but over the years I have seen real limits being placed on my free will as well as the free will of others. May God have mercy on us all who so often wade in ignorance and gross limitations.

  22. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Maybe I should have said “spiritual ignorance”?

  23. Lewis Hodge Avatar
    Lewis Hodge

    This post I will pass along to our youngest grandson! Thank you, Father Stephen, for such good timing as I have been thinking about some things about which to dialogue with him — and his theological dad.

  24. Jarrod Taylor Avatar

    Beautiful, thank you, Father.

    Louis Markos, in his book The Myth Made Fact, talk about a lion cub raised by lamb, and thinks he was a lamb until a majestic full-maned lion ambushed the lamb and all ran away in terror except the lion cub. It saw what it was meant to be.

    could this be modernity’s keeping us like lambs when in fact we are majestic lions? That is to say, called to be like chirst and not like the world.

  25. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Jorrod,
    Christ is the Image according to which we were made, and into whose Image we are being transformed. Christ is the truth of our being.

  26. Simon the Gray Avatar
    Simon the Gray

    Matthew,

    I tend to agree with you. Freedom and freewill are peculiar. It is easy enough to describe freewill as a stochastic biophysical process. In fact, on a day-to-day basis, most of my “decisions” function as a multivariate probability. It is difficult to think of humans moral creatures if we think of them this way, but it is a level of description that seems to work.

    From a common sense point of view we think of “freewill” as an effect without an antecedent cause: It is something that comes from nothing. I think that at this point many would start to invoke metaphysical “things” like souls and spirits in order to talk about where freedom resides. But that doesn’t really work either. First, if the soul was created by God then it has properties bestowed upon it by God that determines what the soul desires, does, tends toward, etc. Second, the soul dwells within a body that operates deterministically. Third, the Scriptures do NOT speak of us as free. We are spoken of as slaves, as captives, as in bondage, and as being compelled by sin to do things with such force that Paul says that “it is no longer I that does it but the sin dwelling in me.”

    In what sense then are we moral creatures? I would say we are not moral creatures and that we should not strive to be moral creatures. We are what we are. We are a mystery even to ourselves. There is the promise of a new creation where all things will be made new. And there is the promise that if Christ sets you free you will be free indeed. Freedom is the hope of all creation “the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious freedom of the sons of God.”

    I am not contradicting Fr. Stephen. What does it mean to be human if we are not free? I don’t know. But, I think that thinking of ourselves now as proto-hypostatic beings is more accurate and that we are awaiting the hope of becoming sons of God (fullness of hypostatic being).

  27. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thank you Simon the Gray.

    I agree that there is the promise that if Christ sets you free you are free indeed. I used to think that meant freedom coming in an instant of belief. Now I believe Christ´s freedom comes to us over time as we grow in salvific union with God.

    Galatians 5:1 … goes something like this … “It is for freedom´s sake that Christ has set you free therefore no longer be burdened by a yolk of slavery.”

    I guess St. Paul is here reminding us of the promise that it is Christ who sets us free, and that it is possible to be free in Christ, but once again I don´t think this happens instantly when one rationally believes. I also don´t think St. Paul was teaching some form of individual liberty in a democratic sense. I used to think this as well.

  28. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    It’s interesting to me how that St. Paul’s statement on freedom/liberty in Galatians has become abstracted across the centuries (rather than remaining in its context). He is writing about the requirement of circumcision – and possibly extend that to certain other matters of the Torah. It’s not nearly the abstract conversation that is made of it. Just my two cents.

  29. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    It certainly has become an abstract conversation Fr. Stephen.

    Thanks so much for the 2 cents.

    😁

  30. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    I was listening to a conversation (Youtube) with Fr. Stephen DeYoung on “St. Paul the Pharisee,” in which he makes the case that St. Paul has been too often removed from his context – such that we fail to see how much he clearly agrees with the gospels, etc. He would argue that St. Paul pushes back against circumcision and other such Torah requirements for gentile converts (note that he had St. Timothy circumcised when in Jerusalem), though he never inveighs against the “moral” requirements of Judaism (no murder, fornication, etc.). He gets turned into a cipher for a kind of libertinism when he is abstracted. I haven’t read Fr. Stephen DeYoung’s new book, but I will soon. He does a new translation of St. Paul’s letters that I’m interested in seeing as well.

    But thoughts on “how free are we” are certainly fair game. Not anywhere as free as modernity’s myth-makers would have it. But not Determinism, either. Free enough.

  31. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    “Free Enough” … title of your next book Fr. Stephen? 😁

    I look forward to reading Fr. Stephen DeYoung’s book too.

  32. Simon the Gray Avatar
    Simon the Gray

    I think in context freedom from the law is trivial and inconsequential. Real freedom is freedom from the corruption associated with death which Paul ties to the Law. But at the end of tha day if all Paul meant to address was circumcision then his audience is a very narrow audience. Certainly it wouldn’t have had much relevance to the Greeks for whom circumcision probably seemed backwards.

  33. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Simon,
    I think that in the letter itself, the context was the large problem of circumcision and how Gentiles were to be incorporated into the Church. Inconsequential, perhaps, in the greater scheme. But, I simply want to be fair to the text itself. There are other places in his writings to which we could refer on the freedom from corruption/death. For me, it’s just that Gal. 5 isn’t the place. He had very practical matters to address as well. Luther famously went wild with Galatians – more than was warranted to my mind.

  34. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    About Father Stephen De Young …

    I would love to know if he has spoken to NT Wright. NT Wright was my “go to” for all things St. Paul when I was a Protestant. I don´t think there is anyone in the Protestant world who is better informed about St. Paul than Wright.

  35. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    I’m not particularly a fan of NT’s work. Fr. Stephen De Young – I’ve met him at some places where we were both speaking, but haven’t had a chance to dig into his work. He’s keen on 2nd Temple Judaism and studies that look at the New Testament in its actual context. I’m a long way from hanging my hat on his work – but – in the conversation I listened to – I thought he was sane and balanced – particularly in looking at St. Paul in his context.

    There’s a sense in which the Protestant Reformation should be seen as “St. Paul out of context…and running.”

    De Young is a voice that I’m willing to hear – which is not always the case for me. I’m old. I’ve heard a lot. Sometimes too much…

  36. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Fr. Stephen.

    Simon the Gray says too narrow. Fr. Stephen says too wide.

    I suppose this is the real challenge of reading and understanding St. Paul, not to mention so many other texts in Holy Scripture. I´m specifically thinking about when I am alone with Holy Scripture wondering what God is saying through a particular portion of text. Must I always turn to the Fathers and the Church for understanding and interpretation?

    How do the Orthodox understand personal study of Holy Scripture?

  37. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    There’s always been a practice of personal study of Scripture. The context of our life as Christians is within the life of the Church. I don’t separate them. But, there’s also a variety of interpretations evident across the centuries – not surprisingly.

  38. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Fr. Stephen.

  39. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Do you read Holy Scripture devotionally Fr. Stephen? If so, does what you read speak more deeply to you because it is connected to your regular participation in Divine Liturgy?

  40. Simon the Gray Avatar
    Simon the Gray

    Well, Galatians just became irrelevant since following a Jewish law and traditions are not in my socio-historical experience. Especially since circumcision is a non-issue.

    To be fair to other scholars DeYoung’s reading is just that–it’s his reading. But it’s nice to hear his perspective.

  41. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Simon,
    You’re right, viz. De Young. I wasn’t trying to state a broad principle – just reflecting on a conversation I’d been listening to.

  42. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    Yes, and no. It’s not a large part of my devotions. I pray, mostly. The Psalms come up a lot – and then there’s going down various Scriptural rabbit holes as they come up. I study with a computer program that brings up (in parallel columns) the Hebrew and the Greek (NT and LXX) as well.

    There’s not a ton of Orthodox Scriptural scholarship (it was largely a Protestant invention). And, over the years, I tended to get tired of reading Protestant scholars (like NT Wright) who were simply not immersed in Orthodox practices and milieu. A lot of Orthodox Scriptural scholarship (in my experience – is dependent on Protestant work – or strongly influenced by it). Often, it puts the Scriptures, or Scriptural questions into a place that is not part of Orthodox tradition. It’s sort of a “mindset” question. “Protestant mindset(s)” produces Protestant answers/questions.

    I don’t have a lot of deep Scriptural questions (any more). I’m satisfied with the crumbs that fall from the table…and if I’m paying attention during the services, there are often crumbs falling all over the place (metaphorically).

  43. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    I think what I like about De Young is that he seems to want to connect St. Paul’s writings to the life of the Church. It’s an approach most Protestant Pauline scholars simply cannot take for seemingly obvious reasons.

  44. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Fr. Stephen for being so frank and open about how you personally deal with Holy Scripture. The comment is very helpful.

  45. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    Very often, my studies are driven by my questions. I’ve studied/read the Scriptures for so many years that just reading them isn’t always the best approach. I’ve noticed that information by itself is useles – unless it is addressing a question that is being asked. So, I’m in the Scriptures a fair amount, but usually tracking down something, or following a “rabbit hole” brought up by something else I was reading.

    My daily devotions are centered in the Church’s prayers and (mostly) the Jesus Prayer.

    Someone once asked me what blogs do I read – and I answered (honestly) “mine.” I don’t have time writing and corresponding on this blog to spend much time elsewhere. There are places that I dip into from time to time. I like to read scholarly papers in various areas. I track a bit of Church news (a little bit). I fight against the temptation to pay too much attention to the world’s news cycles – though it’s pretty unavoidable.

    If I had a spiritual goal that guides me, it would be: work on purity of heart – work on knowledge of God. They go together.

  46. Dee of St Herman Avatar
    Dee of St Herman

    and if I’m paying attention during the services, there are often crumbs falling all over the place (metaphorically).

    Father, this is so true.

    Oh, Holy Spirit, Oh Heavenly Father, Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us and grant us the crumbs of heavenly bread.

  47. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks again Fr. Stephen for your thoughts about Holy Scripture, your engagement with them and how they fit into the life of the Orthodox Church. Extremely interesting and helpful.

    Interestingly, I have found that Catholics seem to have more engagement with Holy Scripture now as compared to when I was growing up Catholic in the 70´s and the 80´s. Believe it or not, I find myself probably more in Holy Scripture now than in the last few years of my Protestant life, though the way I engage the text now as a Catholic has changed a lot.

    My fear is that in private devotion I might go “willy nilly” with the text thinking it is what the Holy Spirit is saying to me personally through the words I am meditating on. It will be interesting to see how my engagement with Holy Scripture grows and changes as I more fully press into the sacramental and liturgical life of the Church, which of course always includes readings from Holy Scripture.

    Thanks again. 🙂

  48. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    It’s worth noting that the “personal” devotion that includes Scripture reading is quite modern – impossible without the printing press – and, even then – impossible until small, cheap versions were available. The Scriptures were written, and judged to be “Scripture,” primarily for the purpose of public reading. Our private reading is a luxury unknown for the first 1500 years of the Church.

    If we study the 16-17th century of the Christian West – especially if we drill down to history in detail – we discover that this new experience actually brought with it huge amounts of confusion, delusion, and nonsense. It settled down after a time (if we can call the constant turmoil of modern Protestantism “settled”). Of course, it can also become trite – like the ever-present “3:16” sign at ball games.

    I would say that the personal reading of Scripture is the closest thing to a sacramental experience that most Protestants have – and that’s not a bad thing. I highly recommend the book by the Anglican (conservative) scholar, Hans Boersma, Scripture as Real Presence. He has been deeply influenced by Orthodox writers (and Catholic), and writes in a clear and helpful manner. You might enjoy him. I would like to meet him some day – he teaches in Wisconsin.

  49. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Really good points Fr. Stephen. Would it be correct to say that for nearly 400 years we did not have a biblical canon and as such we can then ask ourselves what our ancestors in the faith were doing when they gathered on the first day of the week?? Celebrating the Eucharist immediately comes to mind, not a Bible study.

    Still learning as always …….

  50. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Scripture as Real Presence … looks awesome … a bit pricey though …

  51. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    I read things on Kindle…where it’s cheaper and more portable. 🙂 I’m so modern. I also ran out of bookshelf space…

  52. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Fr. Stephen. I agree re: Kindle, but this particular book is still hovering at 24,00 euros for the digital version.

    Modern? Fr. Stephen? I never associate this word with you! 🙂 🙂

  53. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    …as we communicate with our computers…

  54. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    🙂 🙂 🙂

  55. Drewster2000 Avatar
    Drewster2000

    Fr. Stephen,

    There is something about the style and spirit in which you write certain posts – like this one – which helps me understand the nature of true poetry, that which goes beyond rhyme and meter. It seems to be at least partly synonymous with a state in which the heart is speaking to the reader instead of the mind. I also suspect it is this ability of yours which draws a crowd more than anything else. The sheep know the voice of the Shepherd and this voice comes through most often when the heart is allowed to speak.

    Thank you so much for allowing us to hear the voice of the Shepherd through yours.

  56. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Drewster,
    Such kind words! Many thanks…may God speak to us all!

  57. Dee of St Herman Avatar
    Dee of St Herman

    Father,
    I ask you this question partly because of your history of becoming Orthodox. You had the courage to take an honest look at what Protestantism is while you were a devout Protestant. And you were able recognize the truth and reality of the Orthodox Church.

    I don’t understand why someone would want to be so immersed in Orthodox theology as the author of “Scripture as Real Presence” and not even give reference to such sources and life within the Orthodox Church. I read his bio. It is from this reading of his bio that regardless of such immersion he appears to still evade the very real and living presence of the Orthodox Church. He describes himself to be a “ ressourcement (retrieval) theologian of sorts. Retrieval of the Great Tradition’s sacramental ontology”. There’s no theological “retrieval” needed, as far as I know— just take a deep dive into the life of the Orthodox Church as she still stands today. Granted I understand he’s Protestant and probably wants to remain so. But it’s as if he wants to ‘return’ the Anglican Church (or Protestantism) into something it has never been, and ignore the existence of the Orthodox Church as the living example of the “Great Tradition’s sacramental ontology”.

    I don’t understand this thinking. But then again I’m Orthodox and perhaps I’m just too biased to understand.

  58. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Hello Dee. Many Anglicans do not consider themselves Protestant I am told. They see themselves as the Via Media between Catholicism and Protestantism.

  59. Dee of St Herman Avatar
    Dee of St Herman

    Matthew,
    Such thinking reminds me of those who say they are Christian but don’t believe in the Trinity. It isn’t based on reality. Or that they are comfortable in reinventing history. I understand that Orthodoxy was not well known in the west a few decades ago. But someone exploring Christianity from the outside (as I was once) it wasn’t so easy to dismiss its reality.

  60. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks for your thoughts Dee. Is the author’s unwillingness to reference Orthodox sources and life a deal breaker for you in terms of giving the book a chance? It seems like a great resource.

  61. Dee of St Herman Avatar
    Dee of St Herman

    Perhaps this discussion reflects my personal history.

    I suppose I ask myself this question: With such a desire to learn about the theology of the Church, and seeing in such an endeavour the history, existence of and continuation of the Orthodox Church as the source of such theology, why would I not mention or even ignore the presence of the Orthodox Church? Why would I not mention its existence or influence in history or theology? Especially when Patristics is a focus. Such behaviour appears to have a purpose I do not trust. Even more that it is part of an endeavour to invent a facsimile of Orthodoxy and ascribe to such facsimile a history it doesn’t have.

  62. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Dee,
    I can say more later. But Boersma does reference the Orthodox and has a good relationship with a number of Orthodox theologians. Fr Andrew Louth wrote the intro to his latest book. I have a friend who studied under him, and is now Orthodox, who said that Schmemann was required reading in his classes, for example. Anglicans can be a sort of odd fish. They’re not truly what they sometimes imagine themselves to be – a “branch” of the One Church. But it occasionally produces some interesting converts. A unique and increasingly sad history at present. But I first learned of Orthodoxy in that context. One of my questions for Boersma is, “Why not Orthodoxy?” And it might be part of a patient process. I’ve appreciated his last couple of books…

  63. Dee of St Herman Avatar
    Dee of St Herman

    Dear Father,
    It’s indeed good to hear that he at least recognises the Orthodox Church. That didn’t come through in his bio or his website.

    I’ll say this much about yourself. You were honest with yourself about the Protestant Church not withstanding new inventions. Sure it takes time. Patience indeed.

    I trust your insights Father. And I’ll say no more.

  64. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Dee,
    I can take a little more time (had to take my nap first). We’re house hunting this weekend…so a bit distracted.

    I think that Anglicans don’t know what they don’t know. They can be quite sacramental and deeply rooted in tradition, but not see just how much protestantism continues to dominate their thought. I think there’s many who still have an ecumenical vision of “us all getting back together” that is simply not going to happen.

    But, my journey took some 25 years, and, most of the time, I didn’t know I was on a journey. But Orthodoxy is also its own worst enemy. Our divisions and such, complete with various corruptions and problems, can make it easy for someone who is outside-looking-in to be quite hesitant and decide that maybe they’re just fine where they are. Again, they do not realize that Orthodoxy cannot be known from the outside. I didn’t fully understand that until after I converted. Then I marveled at the richness and the wealth.

    Orthodox history, like all Christian history, is a mess. Indeed, it’s messier than most Orthodox know (they’re reading is far too narrow). But, that same messiness can be found in the Book of Acts – it’s always been there. We’ve never had a golden period free of such problems. But, that said, this is still the original Church, the true Church. But it’s a mess.

    As a priest, I live in obedience to my bishop and the Holy Synod of the OCA. I know our bishops personally, and like them. But I’m not naive – and never had a chance to be naive, even before I converted. However, I have a strong sense of Divine Providence that makes it possible to bear the many failings that plague us all. That includes being patient with Protestants even when I’m being critical of them. They didn’t invent the mess.

    But – I’d love to meet Boersma sometime. I think we could have an interesting conversation or two. The seminary where he teaches is associated with the breakaway Anglicans (I understand). It has had many visits by Orthodox theologians and has helped foster discussions with them. Interesting.

  65. Dee of St Herman Avatar
    Dee of St Herman

    Thank you Father, for your in- depth response.

    Indeed Orthodoxy has been a mess and I appreciate your honesty about that too. I can’t say however that such problems make Orthodoxy that much more unappealing relative to Protestantism or Catholicism. Looking from the outside in as I did once upon a time, all of Christianity looked pretty ugly. Yet it is fair to say Protestantism didn’t invent the mess. And as you say it takes an immersion into the life of the Orthodox Church to experience her beauty.

    Your words bring to light Christ’s in John 8:32. Always grateful Father!

  66. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Hello Fr. Stephen. Can you comment on the current state of Catholic-Orthodox relations?

  67. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    There’s not much more than the talks that take place from time to time. I have heard that nothing that would indicate any serious change any time soon. There’s the discussion on the table (between the Ecumenical Patriarch and the Pope about have a common date for Easter – but most of what I’ve heard would entail Rome adopting the Orthodox way of calculating it). In truth, the more immediate need in Orthodoxy has to do with intra-Orthodox relations. It’s been a troubling few years. We’ll see.

  68. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thank you Fr. Stephen.

  69. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    The war in Ukraine has created a temporary schism in Orthodoxy. I believe it will be healed…but there is damage that will need to be healed as well. Orthodoxy failed (in my opinion) to come to a consensus on a single method for granting autocephaly. It’s not fully covered in the canons (at least in a manner that everyone agrees to). This means that the modern situation is fraught with potential problems. It will come round – I think. But there are historic strains between some of the Patriarchates that need to be addressed. So, as in all things, Orthodoxy requires patience.

  70. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Patience. Man. I need this too.

  71. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    I think it’s very difficult to nurture patience by looking towards the future. We nurture it, first, by looking to the past and observing the goodness of God and His Providence. Doing that, we work at building up confidence in the reality that God is good. It’s having that largely settled within us that allows us to deal with the future (or even just the present) with patience. And, even then, it’s still hard. Our culture tends to work against us on this one.

  72. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Sometimes I feel our culture works against us on so many levels. That said, good advice about how to nurture patience.

  73. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    I can’t think of a single century in Church history that was not fraught with difficulties and troubles. Even the centuries of the Great Councils were terrible – among some of the worst. I have this article: The Church Is the Cross through History, that suggests how I think about all of this in a patient manner.

  74. Simon the Gray Avatar
    Simon the Gray

    Settling the reality that God is Good is just not easy or obvious. I will occasionally review journals from previous years of my life. And I really enjoy reading the entries from 2005-2010. Especially 2010. When I read those entries I read the comments of someone who was genuinely happy and grateful. I wasn’t a Christian at that time. I was seeking truth, but mostly felt like it was a waste of time. But, my life was SO simple back then. And I think that is one of the keys to happiness: Simplicity. If you can find a way to live a simple life, then you will be on the road to contentment, gratitude, and happiness. Regardless of whether or not you think God is Good.

    Recently, my cousin hung himself in a shed. His father (my uncle) found him. He had two sons. One with disabilities. This boy cannot understand what has happened. But, he loves and misses his father desperately. The mother had already passed some time ago. Try telling this boy with disabilities that despite the fact that he has lost both parents and is being cared for by his ailing grandparents that God is Good.

    We as adults who have lived through things, survived, and live to tell the tell sit around wondering what is it all about and how do we make sense of it. This gets easier to do the farther away you are from the things you’ve suffered. I get these strong urges of devotion that I cultivate desperately when they hit me, but then reality breaks in. And forces me to concede that my impulses are as meaningless and nonsensical as that boys pain.

    That young boy…weeping for his father. a father who will never show back up to ease his pain or protect him from a world that is indifferent to his disabilities.

    We can rationalize and justify our beliefs just like anyone else with a set of beliefs can. But, you know what I would rather say? I would rather say that my belief in a Good God is crazy, irrational, and makes no sense. It seems more honest. to believe that God is Good makes no sense.

  75. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks Fr. Stephen.

    I guess there has been difficulties and trouble since the beginning, but the Cross remains.

  76. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Simon the Gray,
    To confess that God is good is not to say that there is no evil, nor that bad things do not happen. It is to discern a pattern of goodness despite the evil and the bad. Of course, it is also possible to say that it makes no sense. But I do not see that people live “making no sense” of the world around them. We are “sense makers.”

    But, I don’t want to belabor all of this. I believe the pattern of goodness is there despite everything to the contrary.

  77. Simon the Gray Avatar
    Simon the Gray

    We are sense makers. But look at Life from within the life of another. It seems so overwhelming obvious to me that there will be some whose plight and circumstances will make it impossible for them to see. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE I IDENTIFY WITH.

    Only occasionally am I able to see the possibility of God’s Goodness. More often than not, not only do I identify with someone who may never see the world as Good, but they are the only ones I want to identify with. There’s an odd sense that I have that I don’t want the comfort or the consolation of a beautification vision.

    In my heart of hearts I am afraid–I mean desperately afraid–of becoming indifferent to the words “My God, my God…” And if you think Christ was just quoting Scripture, then the Cross has been robbed of meaning.

    Does this make sense?

    Making sense cor sense-making ould very well anesthetize us against the cathartic aspect bearing the Cross should have.

    I guess what I am asking is this: Isn’t the brutal contradiction better than consolation/comfort of making-sense of it all?

  78. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Hello Simon the Gray. I debated a bit with myself about whether or not I should even write something regarding the goodness of God here in this space at this time. I mean, I cannot even begin to imagine what everyone who was close to your cousin is going through right now, especially his son with disabilities. I don´t want to offer up vague simplicities or trite words that might float across a computer screen as inappropriate, uncaring, or just plain stupid phrases and sentences.

    Even as a theist who believes in the absolute goodness of God, I struggle still with the problem of evil … believe it or not especially the evil I observe in the natural realm among the plants and animals. Some have attempted to offer up their arguments about how God can be absolutely good while at the same time allow a lion to rip apart an innocent wildebeest on the African veld for supper. At the end of the day, though, they are only attempts at explaining something I think is nearly beyond human explanation.

    I cannot definitively explain why evil and suffering exists within the goodness of God and God´s creation. I have no idea how to answer the so many “why? why?” questions that come up regarding human suffering and the goodness of God, but I have been captured by the beauty of the God-man Jesus Christ and all that he did and continues to do in the lives of all human beings. I have read about how he so greatly suffered unto death, even death on a cross, but then ultimately conquered death. I have experienced Christ´s goodness in my own life and I know Christ was with me during personal times of great suffering. I meet this Christ in the liturgy and sacraments of the Church again and again and again.

    It is this Christ who I hope and pray will continue to save me as I wrestle with questions of evil and God´s goodness; as I continue to face evil and suffering even in my own life in and in the lives of those whom I love — especially my mother-in-law as I type.

    May God give us all strength and grace!

  79. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Simon (the Gray),
    I hear what you’re saying about what you most identify with. This is not unique to you, but is, I think, very much bound up with your own experiences (which you’ve shared). Emotionally it makes good sense.

    What I think is that it’s important that “God is good” not be reduced to an abstract cipher. For me, it is essential that “God” be understood as the Crucified Christ (and not a “good God” of the philosophers – I don’t know any such God). What I see and bear witness to is the cruciform goodness of God working continually. I discern the pattern. It would be utterly absurd to describe a pattern of history that described history itself as good. For individuals like your cousin’s son (and so many others), to simply declare that history and the world are evil would be unthinkable as well. However, when all of this is discussed in which the God of Whom we speak is the cruciform God, then we are describing a world in which many terrible things take place but are being redeemed and a pattern of goodness working its way through and in it such that we can say, “God is good.”

    For me, to say, “God is good,” is a confession of the Cross, and not a philosophical or trite confession. It’s not driven by comfort/consolation but by the Cross itself. What I can see that makes me say, “God is good,” is the pattern of the Cross through history – repeatedly.

    That “makes sense” to me.

  80. Simon the Gray Avatar
    Simon the Gray

    Fr. Stephen would say that God cannot be revealed apart from suffering? Perhaps the Goodness of a kenotic God is revealed in world that needs redemption?

  81. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Simon,
    The world is created “through the Logos” who was “slain from the foundation of the earth…” so we only know God as a cruciform, kenotic, revelation. When God sees the world which He has created as says that “it is good,” I believe it would mean that it reflects His goodness (not a philosopher’s goodness). But stories of beginnings are difficult, at best. I start in the middle with the Crucified and Risen Christ and work backwards and forwards from there.

    Already, in the beginning story (Genesis), we have Adam and Eve in a Garden in which there is a Tree whose fruit they may not eat. That, if you will, constitutes a limit and a “suffering” of sort. It is not a world without a “No.” That leaves much to ponder.

  82. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    How do the philosophers define good?

  83. Margaret Sarah Avatar
    Margaret Sarah

    Father Stephen,

    I hope it’s ok to jump in. I appreciate this discussion deeply.

    You said to Simon: “To confess that God is good is not to say that there is no evil, nor that bad things do not happen.” How does this harmonize with the morning prayer of the last elders of Optina? Particularly the line “In unexpected events, let me not forget that all is sent from You.” That line has been sticking in my throat every morning for weeks now. Because, like you said – bad things happen. I do not wish to look at something bad or evil and be obliged to say that it is good. First, at this point I would be lying. And I am terrified of coming to a place where I successfully “doublethink” my way into believing otherwise.

    I relate very much to what Simon said: “In my heart of hearts I am afraid–I mean desperately afraid–of becoming indifferent to the words ‘My God, my God…’”

    There is something horribly sinister about a happy, tidy theodicy.

    Matthew, for what it’s worth, I’ve heard many contemporary academic philosophers define goodness along the lines of “minimizing suffering” or “maximizing pleasure”, although with sufficient nuance that saves them from committing to straight-up hedonism. Clearly Christianity has something different to say on this.

  84. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    I think that sometimes (maybe all the time) they beg the question. In modernity, good and evil are often distinguished by the component of suffering. Modernity tends to define all suffering as evil – thus easily justifies the various forms of so-called “mercy killings” as good. If there were a button, which, by pushing, you could destroy (cause to not exist) the entire universe – modernity would be sorely tempted to push it and imagine it was doing a good thing. There are certainly some who argue that the disappearance of the entire human race would be good.

    I believe that goodness only(!) makes sense, or has any definition, as a reference to God Himself. God is the good in Christian theology.

    Very early on in my readings in Orthodox thought, I found suffering to be taken very seriously. Just reading Dostoevsky will do that for you. I have to say that I was first drawn to Orthodoxy (on the level of the heart) by reading Russian thought and theology. It is not naive, to say the least. It could have been some other way – but that was what happened to me. It was the witness of the suffering church of Russia that spoke to my deep heart when I was in college – and the journey began.

  85. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Margaret Sarah,
    You clearly have a heart…and that matters. I totally understand the reaction to the prayer of the Last Elders of Optina (one of my favorites). One reason that it is among my favorites (first came across it in the 1990’s) is that I know that those who wrote it and were praying it were not the garden-variety “name it and claim it” sorts who were practicing double-think. It suggested to me that they knew something I did not – and drew me closer to understanding. And it took a long time – especially heart-time.

    Again, to say that all things are sent down from God is to confess that God is “in charge of history.” That, even if they nails His hands and feet to a Cross and pierce Him in the side that He is inexorably working good from it. I don’t read it as saying that God “causes” all things in the sense of a direct cause. Rather, it says that what I do, you do, or anyone else does, His love will have the final say and that all of that evil, or attempted evil, will be redeemed.

    That is the mystery of the Cross. But it can only be understood from within the Cross. St. Maximos the Confessor said “he who understands the mystery of the Cross understands all things.” Which is a way of saying that only the Cross makes sense of things.

    The prayer of the Last Elders is a paradox – and it invites us into the paradox. For me, it invites me into the paradox of forgiving everyone for everything, into the paradox of loving my enemies, turning the cheek, doing good rather than evil, etc. The alternative is to live dog-eat-dog and learn to be crafty, mean, and cunning. Only the Cross makes the paradox of love possible. I hope to be confessing this with my last breath.

  86. Margaret Sarah Avatar
    Margaret Sarah

    Fr. Stephen,

    Thank you! I suppose your explanation fits better in my mind with the previous line “all things are subject to thy holy will”. But I can see how the “sending” might be a paradox as well. I’ll ruminate further.

    How, in your mind, does the Cross and Pascha intersect? Is the Cross only “good” in light of Pascha?

  87. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Margaret,
    I’ve always thought the “sending” was at least paradoxical. I did an article on the “Erotic Language of Prayer,” that speaks about the nature of liturgical language. It’s frequently a bit over the top. It can be less than precise at times.

  88. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Fr. Stephen and Margaret Sarah for the explanation about philosophers and their understanding of goodness.

    Fr. Stephen said:

    “Already, in the beginning story (Genesis), we have Adam and Eve in a Garden in which there is a Tree whose fruit they may not eat. That, if you will, constitutes a limit and a “suffering” of sort. It is not a world without a “No.” That leaves much to ponder.”

    Very interesting. Can you unpack this a bit more Fr. Stephen? What should we ponder?

  89. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Margaret Sarah,
    I overlooked your last question, forgive me. Originally, Good Friday through Pascha (Easter) were a single feast. It was only with time (and quite early) that they became celebrated in the manner we do today. But, that original practice reveals their singular meaning: they belong inseparably together. We see it in the Bibilical texts as well. The Christ who is risen and appears to the disciples continues to bear the marks of His crucifixion. “Place your hand in my side!” He says to Thomas.

    I would say that the paradoxical name of “Good” Friday is also instructive – although the Orthodox name is officially “Great and Holy Friday.” The goodness of the Crucifixion is not found in the actions of the soldiers, etc., but that, as we described it: “a voluntary sacrifice.” “No one takes my life from me,” Christ says, “I lay it down of my own self.” The paradox is revealed in that the soldiers meant one thing and God meant another. Pascha reveals the intentions of God and their triumph.

  90. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew,
    To me, it says that the goodness of the world, even in an unfallen state, is “kenotic” in nature. This is revealed even in the Persons of the Holy Trinity. The Father is not the Son. The Son is not the Father. Neither are the Holy Spirit. There is a “self-emptying” in a true, personal, hypostatic existence. That is the character of love.

    Paradise was not an “all you can eat buffet.”

  91. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    Thanks so much Fr. Stephen. This truth about goodness being “kenotic” in nature, about being a self-emptying reality, shines with beauty!

    I´m wondering, though, what you meant when you spoke about there being a “no” in the garden. Did you mean because God said “no” to the eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, that this “no” caused Adam and Eve suffering?

    I find that difficult to believe … suffering in an unfallen state? What am I missing here?

  92. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    This discussion about goodness and suffering, as well as my mother-in-law´s condition, lead me today to a song that I discovered in my late Protestant days. It is called “Farther Along” and it seems like no one knows who wrote it, but it has been performed by various artists over the years. The writer of the song claims the following:

    Farther along we’ll know all about it
    Farther along we’ll understand why
    So cheer up my brothers, live in the sunshine
    We’ll understand this, all by and by

    I´d like to believe this is true. If find real beauty in it. Peace.

  93. Dee of St Herman Avatar
    Dee of St Herman

    Father,
    I appreciate your words “paradise is not an all you can eat buffet”. However, it seems that the “all you can eat buffet” is how paradise is viewed in Western culture. I think it is both literally and figuratively so in the ‘consumerism’ way of understanding paradise, whether it refers to a heavenly or earthly paradise. The kenotic relationship is not well understood.

  94. Margaret Sarah Avatar
    Margaret Sarah

    Matthew, I would recommend Father’s article: https://glory2godforallthings.com/2017/03/27/icon-unfallen-suffering/

    Father, perhaps you can confirm or correct my understanding of suffering in the Garden? When I think of the “no” in the garden, I see it as a chance offered Man to accept a limitation – the acceptance of which would reveal in us a small pattern of kenotic goodness. Sometimes I think of this chance extending throughout the story – there seem to be“little deaths” offered to both Eve and then Adam all throughout the story, all the way down to the point that they are blaming one another and refusing to admit brokenness. I myself “continue the story” when I refuse to face death.

  95. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Matthew, Margaret Sarah, et al
    I have covered this notion of unfallen suffering in an article. I’ve looked back over it and think that it covers the questions we are asking.

  96. Fr. Stephen Avatar

    Margaret,
    I see you found the article. And your description as quite good. We are created good in the image of the good God. That image, however, is revealed to us in the Crucified and Risen Christ. Indeed, as Eve is taken from the side of Adam, we see the pattern of the crucifixion. This happens on the 6th day (Friday). Adam sleeps, just as Christ “sleeps” in death. From Christ’s side, blood and water flow, and His bride, the Church is brought forth. This is sung about in the hymnography of the Church and the commentaries of the Fathers.

    We do not have an uncrucified goodness shown to us. Personhood itself requires a self-limitation. Modern consumerism imagines paradise as unlimited narcissism. When I hear the blasphemous notions from Islamic extremists where terrorists receive 40 (or how many) virgins as a reward. It treats women like things to be abused and consumed. It is trite and unworthy of mention in connection with the name of God. Paradise exists only in the image of Christ – nothing less.

    And so, Christ tells us to love our enemies – because He loves His enemies. If we don’t want to be like Him, we would hate being with Him. Perhaps this is the problem that the demons have. They are the ultimate consumers.

  97. Margaret Sarah Avatar
    Margaret Sarah

    Father,
    I hadn’t connected Adam’s sleep to being the 6th day – thank you for that!

    “Personhood itself requires a self-limitation” – lots to think on there, especially in view of “omnipotence”. When divorced from the image of Christ, a tri-omni god becomes the stuff of nightmares.

  98. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    I’m failing to see the relationship between the “no” in the garden and the crucified Christ coupled with human suffering.

    Sorry.

  99. Matthew Avatar
    Matthew

    FYI … I did read the article.

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