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		<title>By: syrian88</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-62543</link>
		<dc:creator>syrian88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This winds up being a good warning about the nature of idolatry, which could be defined as &quot;assigning a solid aspect to created things.&quot;  Every materialist essentially believes that &quot;matter&quot; is the most self-existent and real thing we are likely to come across and then he goes on to assign qualities of deity to it rather than seeing it as a transient pointer to something else.  Maybe that is the big breakdown between secularism and what used to be a called a &quot;Platonic&quot; way of seeing the world (not that Orthodox theology corresponds to a Platonic cosmology exactly).  The world is either pointing to something greater or the world is &quot;all there was, is, or will be.&quot;  We order everything in our lives accordingly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This winds up being a good warning about the nature of idolatry, which could be defined as &#8220;assigning a solid aspect to created things.&#8221;  Every materialist essentially believes that &#8220;matter&#8221; is the most self-existent and real thing we are likely to come across and then he goes on to assign qualities of deity to it rather than seeing it as a transient pointer to something else.  Maybe that is the big breakdown between secularism and what used to be a called a &#8220;Platonic&#8221; way of seeing the world (not that Orthodox theology corresponds to a Platonic cosmology exactly).  The world is either pointing to something greater or the world is &#8220;all there was, is, or will be.&#8221;  We order everything in our lives accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: Unshakeable&#160;Reality &#124; The Expanded Kingdom &#124; Scoop.it</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-60955</link>
		<dc:creator>Unshakeable&#160;Reality &#124; The Expanded Kingdom &#124; Scoop.it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] In his novel, The Great Divorce, C.S. Lewis imagines a bus-load of people who travel from &#8220;hell&#8221; to &#8220;heaven.&#8221; Their trip takes them from a place described as &#8220;gray,&amp;#8...&#160; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In his novel, The Great Divorce, C.S. Lewis imagines a bus-load of people who travel from &ldquo;hell&rdquo; to &ldquo;heaven.&rdquo; Their trip takes them from a place described as &ldquo;gray,&amp;#8&#8230;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TeresaAngelina</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-60931</link>
		<dc:creator>TeresaAngelina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2012 02:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you.  I&#039;ve read the links, Father, and it now appears that the work place in which I am in is not the only crazy place...it is within myself.  Okay.  Good to know.  I have been reading this week Archimandrite Sophrony&#039;s &quot;On Prayer&quot; with great puzzlement.  No; I have not even begun.  Thank you Michael and thank you Fr. Stephen.  I have read the links and the other links contained.  I will bookmark this page.  Much to do.  (I am new to your site so please forgive me that I did not know where to look.  Thank you for offering directions.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.  I&#8217;ve read the links, Father, and it now appears that the work place in which I am in is not the only crazy place&#8230;it is within myself.  Okay.  Good to know.  I have been reading this week Archimandrite Sophrony&#8217;s &#8220;On Prayer&#8221; with great puzzlement.  No; I have not even begun.  Thank you Michael and thank you Fr. Stephen.  I have read the links and the other links contained.  I will bookmark this page.  Much to do.  (I am new to your site so please forgive me that I did not know where to look.  Thank you for offering directions.)</p>
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		<title>By: fatherstephen</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-60924</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TeresaAngelina,
In addition to repentance, as Michael Bauman pointed out, you might find the suggestions in these two recent posts helpful. They are &lt;a href=&quot;http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/06/28/is-anybody-there-speaking-to-the-heart/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/06/28/the-long-journey-home/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TeresaAngelina,<br />
In addition to repentance, as Michael Bauman pointed out, you might find the suggestions in these two recent posts helpful. They are <a href="http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/06/28/is-anybody-there-speaking-to-the-heart/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and <a href="http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/06/28/the-long-journey-home/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bauman</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-60916</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Bauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TeresaAngelina:  the movement from the false self to the real self is always through repentance.  Which is not just feeling badly for our mistakes (although that is a part of it), it is a constant effort to see the false and give it up in prayer to Jesus Christ.  There is both the official sacramental repentance with a priest acting as guide, guardian, intercessor and icon of our Lord, but also the daily effort to become more aware of and reject the falseness in our selves as we go about our daily activities.   The Jesus Prayer is a good tool for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TeresaAngelina:  the movement from the false self to the real self is always through repentance.  Which is not just feeling badly for our mistakes (although that is a part of it), it is a constant effort to see the false and give it up in prayer to Jesus Christ.  There is both the official sacramental repentance with a priest acting as guide, guardian, intercessor and icon of our Lord, but also the daily effort to become more aware of and reject the falseness in our selves as we go about our daily activities.   The Jesus Prayer is a good tool for that.</p>
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		<title>By: eternallypresentfillingallthings</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-60897</link>
		<dc:creator>eternallypresentfillingallthings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 03:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Fr. Stephen!

I especially liked: &quot;This establishes the path of theology. We speak from the place of the shakeable about a place being revealed that is unshakeable. We speak from the less real, about the more real. What we know and experience is not unreal, but its reality is contingent and relative....The Scriptures grant an unmovable quality to the true self (heart). It is a spiritual creation, established in the Lord’s Pascha, and participates in the uncreated life of God. It is through that participation that we know Christ.&quot;

Like others I wish that I could better remember that true reality is far more transcendent &amp; real that the tiny &amp; limited reality that is my &quot;world&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Fr. Stephen!</p>
<p>I especially liked: &#8220;This establishes the path of theology. We speak from the place of the shakeable about a place being revealed that is unshakeable. We speak from the less real, about the more real. What we know and experience is not unreal, but its reality is contingent and relative&#8230;.The Scriptures grant an unmovable quality to the true self (heart). It is a spiritual creation, established in the Lord’s Pascha, and participates in the uncreated life of God. It is through that participation that we know Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like others I wish that I could better remember that true reality is far more transcendent &amp; real that the tiny &amp; limited reality that is my &#8220;world&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: TeresaAngelina</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-60896</link>
		<dc:creator>TeresaAngelina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 03:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I may ask, practically speaking, how is the movement from the false self to the real self begun?  I almost said &quot;accomplished&quot; but somehow I do not think that would be real either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I may ask, practically speaking, how is the movement from the false self to the real self begun?  I almost said &#8220;accomplished&#8221; but somehow I do not think that would be real either.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-60883</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Father, bless!

I could not leave aside the concreteness and materiality of Byzantine architecture as an image (or icon, if you like) of the solidity and reality of spirituality.  We tend to think of the spiritual as lacking substance, but perhaps the truth is that the spiritual is more substantial (or solid, or real) than the mere material.  I think Lewis was onto something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Father, bless!</p>
<p>I could not leave aside the concreteness and materiality of Byzantine architecture as an image (or icon, if you like) of the solidity and reality of spirituality.  We tend to think of the spiritual as lacking substance, but perhaps the truth is that the spiritual is more substantial (or solid, or real) than the mere material.  I think Lewis was onto something.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewster2000</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-60880</link>
		<dc:creator>Drewster2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Great Divorce is one of my favorites.  Though I don&#039;t take it literally, I think it to be one of the most accurate pictures we have of Heaven and our relationship to the after-world.  The whole &quot;solid&quot; business is pure genius as a metaphor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Great Divorce is one of my favorites.  Though I don&#8217;t take it literally, I think it to be one of the most accurate pictures we have of Heaven and our relationship to the after-world.  The whole &#8220;solid&#8221; business is pure genius as a metaphor.</p>
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		<title>By: Father Stephen</title>
		<link>http://glory2godforallthings.com/2012/07/10/unshakeable-reality/#comment-60877</link>
		<dc:creator>Father Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick,
Yes. The photo, though appropriate to Perelandra, was a little weird. We return to something a bit more uplifting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,<br />
Yes. The photo, though appropriate to Perelandra, was a little weird. We return to something a bit more uplifting.</p>
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